Bob: I'm not totally convinced that having a high number of degrees of
freedom is actually necessary for the development of intelligence.  Of
greater importance is the sensory capability, and the ways in which
that data is processed.  A birds beak is a far less elaborate tool
than a human hand or arm, but there are examples of birds making and
using tools to extract food.  These capabilities require insight - the
ability to imaginatively create a possible solution to a problem, then
act out that plan

It's a v.g point re the beak. But... the bird has an incredibly flexible neck which crucially enabled it, for example, to fashion a straight wire into a hook. And I suspect that the imaginative, cognitive flexibility to see the straight wire as hook is intimately dependent on the physical, movement flexibility of the body. That's the connection, also, that the Euro crowd are insisting on - enactive cognition.

Of course, what follows from this - it suddenly occurs to me in a half-garbled way - is that an either/or mindset here is radically wrong. Actually, if you think evolutionarily, organisms start as extremely free protoplasm. But as they develop it is by evolving rigid parts - skeletons and beaks - that they gain still greater, *controlled* flexibility.of movement, as opposed presumably to floppy, uncontrolled flexibility. Any thoughts here?

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