On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Anthony George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But, I want to ask the list whether or not there has been any trend > or attempt to incorporate reflexivity into an AGI model. By reflexivity I > mean, basically, two computers that interact with each other but, perhaps, > don't "know" that they are two separate computers. This is just based on an > intuitive image that I've had: that consciousness might be something like > the tension between two viewpoints, and not either of the viewpoints > themselves. Two speakers oriented the same way with their soundwaves going > out would be the two computers, where the soundwaves interact would be where > the "AGI" would be.
Hi, What problem are you trying to solve? You seem to be talking about detection of novel situations. Let's say a simple component can be "stable" when it receives the same kind of input again and again and it doesn't change in response to that input anymore. Then it will only be necessary (or possible) for this component to change when it receives novel input, that is unlike the usual kind. The change in the component can be viewed as adding a new fact to memory. In this case memory only needs to be created when something changes. When multiple components interact, that is their responses influence their inputs, it may be simple to create unusual inputs for some of the components at first. But if system gradually adapts, most of the inputs circulating in such system will become usual for components that receive them, and there will be less and less memory formation. Conscious activity is usually accompanied by new memories (at least in the short term). If no new memories are formed, you wouldn't know about how the activity proceeds, you'll only be able to observe the outcome (if any). You can observe this feature in actions that you are used to, e.g. you don't remember thinking about choosing specific movements when walking or driving. It happens automatically, and the process of performing some quite complex activities is closed from introspection. But whenever something unusual happens, you notice it instantly. A human mind is sufficiently complex, and it's possible to "clash" many facts combinatorially, creating novel combinations to form memories about. "Thought-aware" thinking happens when situation is novel, when either incompatible knowledge elements within the mind interact, or when the fact perceived in the world is different from what's in the mind. -- Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=101455710-f059c4 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com