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From: Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--- Jim Bromer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't want to get into a quibble fest, but understanding is not
> necessarily constrained to prediction.

What would be a good test for understanding an algorithm?

-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't have a ready answer for this.  First of all, (maybe I do have a ready 
answer to this), understanding has to be understood in the context of partial 
understanding.  I can understand something about a subject without being an 
expert in the subject, and I am Skeptical of anyone who claims that total 
understanding is feasible, (except for a bounded discussion of a bounded 
concept in which case I would only be skeptical with a small s.)

So to start with, I could say that understanding an algorithm could be defined 
by various kinds of partial knowledge of it.  What kinds of input does it react 
to, and what kinds of internal actions does it take?  What kind of output does 
it produce. Can generalizations of the input it takes, its internal actions and 
its output be made.  What was it designed to do?  Can relations between 
specific examples or derived generalizations of its input, its internal actions 
and its output be made.

While some of this kind of knowledge would require some kind of intelligence, 
others could be expressed in simpler data-concepts.  Harnad's categorical 
grounding comes to mind.  An experimental AI program would be capable of 
deriving data from the operation of an algorithm if its program was created 
around this paradigm of examining an algorithm.   It could then create its own 
kind of analyses of the algorithm, and even though it might not be the same as 
an analysis that we might create, it still might be usable to produce something 
that would border on understanding.

The capacity of prediction is significant in the kind of derived 
generalizations and categorical exemplars that I am thinking of, but the 
concept of understanding must go beyond simple prediction.

Jim Bromer



      
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