Matthias,

On 6/8/08, Dr. Matthias Heger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In short, most people on this
> > list appear to be interested only in HOW to straight-line program an AGI
> > (with the implicit assumption that we operate anything at all like we
> appear
> > to operate), but not in WHAT to program, and most especially not in any
> > apparent insurmountable barriers to successful open-ended capabilities,
> > where attention would seem to be crucial to ultimate success.
> >
> > Anyone who has been in high-tech for a few years KNOWS that success can
> come
> > only after you fully understand what you must overcome to succeed. Hence,
> > based on my own past personal experiences and present observations here,
> > present efforts here would seem to be doomed to fail - for personal if
> not
> > for technological reasons.
>
> -----------------------
>
> Philosophers, biologists, cognitive scientists  worked many many years to
> model the algorithms in the brain but only with success in some details.
> The
> overall
> model of human GI still does not exist.
>
> Should we really begin programming AGI only after fully understanding?


I was attempting to make two points that were apparently missed:
1.  A machine (e.g. a scanning UV fluorescence microscope) could be made for
about the cost of a single supercomputer, that would provide enormous clues
if not outright answers to many of the presently outstanding questions. The
lack of funding for THAT shows a general lack of interest in this field by
anyone with money.
2.  Hence, with a lack of monetary interest and a lack of a good story as to
why this should succeed, there would seem to be little prospect for success,
because even a completely successful AGI program would then need money to
develop its marketing and distribution. That Dr. Eliza has achieved some of
the more valuable goals, but has yet to raise any money, shows that the
world is NOT looking to beat a path to this "better mousetrap".

Steve Richfield



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