On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Abram Demski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vladimir Nesov,
>
> Then do you agree with my hypothetical extremist version of Mike?
>
> (Aside: For the example we are talking about, it is totally necessary
> to stick the undecidable cases in F rather than T: if a Turing machine
> halts, then it is possible to prove that it halts (simply by running
> it for long enough). So if a Turing machine is one of those whose
> halting is formally undecidable, then it must not halt, because if it
> did then a proof of its halting would exist.)
>

If T* is enumerable set of halting machines, F* is enumerable (by our
machine) subset of never-halting machines, and X is set of remaining
machines, the situation is symmetric. If you dump X into T*, you
destroy its property to be enumerable, but likewise with F*.

-- 
Vladimir Nesov
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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