The problem is that writing stories in a formal language, with enough nuance
and volume to really contain the needed commonsense info, would require a
Cyc-scale effort at formalized story entry.  While possible in principle,
this seems infeasible...

Whereas, interactions in virtual worlds and games are happening already,
round the clock, right now ... just waiting for AI's to get involved w/ them
and learn from them...

ben

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Jiri Jelinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ben,
>
> > My perspective on grounding is partially summarized here
> > www.goertzel.org/papers/PostEmbodiedAI_June7.htm
> >"Clearly, embodiment makes the task of teaching a proto-AGI system a heck
> of a lot easier – to such a great extent that trying to create a totally
> unembodied AGI would be a foolish thing."
>
> I wouldn't be so sure about that. Your embodiment approach might be
> better for dealing with the implicit knowledge problem than trying to
> specify every single fact using the predicate logic or by a
> conversation-based teaching. But there is another way, and that's
> teaching through submitted stories [initially written in a formal
> language] = a solution I'm trying to implement when I (once a while)
> get to my AGI development. Stories (and the formal language) provide
> important contextual data and collections of those stories can supply
> a decent amount of semantic knowledge useful for generating (&
> clarifying) the implicit knowledge / grounding particular concepts.
> Writing stories is [I guess] generally easier than setting up
> scenarios-to-learn-from in simulated 3D world. And all the data
> processing and attention allocation etc you need in order to handle
> the 3D world is IMO an unnecessary overkill. But, I have to admit, my
> AGI is not well functional yet (+ I definitely have AGI stuff to
> learn), so - just sharing my current opinion. ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Jiri Jelinek
>
>
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