Hi Will,

I don't doubt that provable-friendliness is possible within limited, 
well-defined domains that can be explicitly defined and hard-coded. I know 
chess programs will never try to kill me.

I don't believe however that you can prove friendliness within a framework that 
has the robustness required to make sense of a dynamic, unstable world. The 
basic problem, as I see it, is that "Friendliness" is a moving target, and 
context dependent. It cannot be defined within the kind of rigorous logical 
frameworks required to prove such a concept.

Terren

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, William Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You may be interested in goedel machines. I think this
> roughly fits
> the template that Eliezer is looking for, something that
> reliably self
> modifies to be better.
> 
> http://www.idsia.ch/~juergen/goedelmachine.html
> 
> Although he doesn't like explicit utility functions,
> the provably
> better is something he want. Although what you would accept
> as axioms
> for the proofs upon which humanity fate rests I really
> don't know.
> 
> Personally I think strong self-modification is not going to
> be useful,
> the very act of trying to understand the way the code for
> an
> intelligence is assembled will change the way that some of
> that code
> is assembled. That is I think that intelligences have to be
> weakly
> self modifying, in the same way bits of the brain rewire
> themselves
> locally and subconciously, so to, AI  will  need to have
> the same sort
> of changes in order to keep up with humans. Computers at
> the moment
> can do lots of things better that humans (logic, bayesian
> stats), but
> are really lousy at adapting and managing themselves so the
> blind
> spots of infallible computers are always exploited by slow
> and error
> prone, but changeable, humans.
> 
>   Will Pearson
> 
> 
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