That's certainly news to me.

Because you haven't been paying attention (or don't have the necessary background or desire to recognize it). Look at the attention that's been paid to the qualia and consciousness arguments (http://consc.net/online). Any computer with sensors and effectors is embodied. And IBM is even/already touting their "Autonomic Computing" initiatives (http://www.research.ibm.com/autonomic/). Computers already divide tasks into foreground (conscious) and background (unconscious) processes that are *normally* loosely-coupled with internal details encapsulated away from each other. Silicon intelligences aren't going to have human internal organs (except, maybe, as part of a project to simulate/study humans) but they're certainly going to have a sense of humor -- and while they are not going to have the evolved *physical* side-effects, it's going to "feel" like something to them.

Your arguments are very short-sighted and narrow and nitpicking minor *current* details while missing the sweeping scope of what is not only being proposed but actually moving forward around you. Stop telling us what we think because you're getting it *WRONG*. Stop telling us what we're missing because, in most cases, we're actually paying attention to version 3 of what you're talking about and you just don't recognize it. You're looking at the blueprints of F-14 Tomcat and arguing that the wings don't move right for a bird and, besides, it's too unstable for a human to fly (unassisted :-).

Read the papers in the first link and *maybe* we can have a useful conversation . . . .

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Tintner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [agi] Artificial humor


Obviously you have no plans for endowing your computer with a self and a body, that has emotions and can shake with laughter. Or tears.

Actually, many of us do. And this is why your posts are so problematical. You invent what *we* believe and what we intend to do. And then you criticize your total fabrications (a.k.a. mental masturbation).

You/others have plans for an *embodied* computer with the equivalent of an autonomic nervous systems and the relevant, attached internal organs? A robot? That's certainly news to me. Please expand.





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