On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:08 PM, David Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Original works produced by software as a tool where a human operator is
> involved at some stage is a different case from original works produced by
> software exclusively and entirely under its own direction. The latter has no
> precedent.

Seeing as we're off the opencog list now, I'll address this.  Maybe
there's some theoretical difference in your head, but from a legal
perspective there is none.  I work for a megacorp, everything I code
for them belongs to them.  I am a human (sort of) but it doesn't
really matter.  If I wrote a program that generated random C code and
one of them did something useful, that belongs to them too.  If I put
"intelligence" into the generator, it also belongs to them.  The law
doesn't care about the theoretical rights of machines.

> Claiming a copyright and successfully defending that claim are different
> things.

What ways do you envision someone challenging the copyright?

> I agree that the non-person status of [some future] AGI is a bigger problem.
> [..]
> I believe that James's concerns cover both AGI mental torture (coercing or
> tricking a conscious entity into behavior which is sociopathic or criminal
> or otherwise immoral) as a heinous act in itself

It's also not very realistic.  If you want to exploit AGI for profit
you can have a much better time of it if you simply don't make it some
conscious entity that you have to trick or whatever.  If you set its
goals to be whatever specific task you want it to achieve, and then
give it a new goal when it finishes the task, then it does your will,
period.  There's no need to make a mind that has its own agenda and
would rather be doing something other than what you want it to do.
There's no need to coerce an AGI.

And this is the problem.  Although some people have the goal of making
an artificial person with all the richness and nuance of a sentient
creature with thoughts and feelings and yada yada yada.. some of us
are just interested in making more intelligent systems to do automated
tasks.  For some reason people think we're going to do this by making
an artificial person and then enslaving them.. that's not going to
happen because its just not necessary.

Trent


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