On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Text compression is IMHO a terrible way of measuring incremental progress > toward AGI. Of course it may be very valuable for other purposes... > > It is a way to measure progress in language modeling, which is an important > component of AGI That is true, but I think that measuring progress in AGI **components** is a very poor approach to measuring progress toward AGI.... Focusing on testing individual system components tends to lead AI developers down a path of refining system components for optimum functionality on isolated, easily-defined test problems that may not have much to do with general intelligence. It is possible of course that the right path to AGI is to craft excellent components (as verified on various isolated test problems) and then glue them together in the right way. On the other hand, if intelligence is in large part a systems phenomenon, that has to do with the interconnection of reasonably-intelligent components in a reasonably-intelligent way (as I have argued in many prior publications), then testing the intelligence of individual system components is largely beside the point: it may be better to have moderately-intelligent components hooked together in an AGI-appropriate way, than extremely-intelligent components that are not able to cooperate with other components sufficiently usefully. > as well as many NLP applications such as speech recognition, language > translation, OCR, and CMR. It has been used in speech recognition research > since the early 1990's and correlates well with word error rate. > > Training will be the overwhelming cost of AGI. Any language model > improvement will help reduce this cost. I estimate that each one byte > improvement in compression on a 1 GB text file will lower the cost of AGI by > a factor of 10^-9, or roughly $1 million. > > -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Nothing will ever be attempted if all possible objections must be first overcome " - Dr Samuel Johnson ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=114414975-3c8e69 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
