Agreed. Colin would need to show the inadequacy of both inborn and
learned bias to show the need for extra input. But I think the more
essential objection is that extra input is still consistent with
computationalism.

--Abram

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Abram Demski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Ben,
>>
>> I have heard the argument for point 2 before, in the book by Pinker,
>> "How the Mind Works". It is the inverse-optics problem: physics can
>> predict what image will be formed on the retina from material
>> arrangements, but if we want to go backwards and find the arrangements
>> from the retinal image, we do not have enough data at all. Pinker
>> concludes that we do it using cognitive bias.
>
> I understood Pinker's argument, but not Colin Hales's ...
>
> Also, note cognitive bias can be learned rather than inborn (though in this
> case I imagine it's both).
>
> Probably we would be very bad at seeing environment different from those we
> evolved in, until after we'd gotten a lot of experience in them...
>
> ben
>
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