Any argument of the kind "you should better first read xxx + yyy +. " is
very weak. It is a pseudo killer argument against everything with no content
at all.

If  xxx , yyy . contains  really relevant information for the discussion
then it should be possible to quote the essential part with few lines of
text.

If someone is not able to do this he should himself better read xxx, yyy, .
once again.

 

-Matthias

 

 

Ben wrote

 

It would also be nice if this mailing list could be operate on a bit more of
a scientific basis.  I get really tired of pointing to specific references
and then being told that I have no facts or that it was solely my opinion.

 


This really has to do with the culture of the community on the list, rather
than the "operation" of the list per se, I'd say.

I have also often been frustrated by the lack of inclination of some list
members to read the relevant literature.  Admittedly, there is a lot of it
to read.  But on the other hand, it's not reasonable to expect folks who
*have* read a certain subset of the literature, to summarize that subset in
emails for individuals who haven't taken the time.  Creating such summaries
carefully takes a lot of effort.

I agree that if more careful attention were paid to the known science
related to AGI ... and to the long history of prior discussions on the
issues discussed here ... this list would be a lot more useful.

But, this is not a structured discussion setting -- it's an Internet
discussion group, and even if I had the inclination to moderate more
carefully so as to try to encourage a more carefully scientific mode of
discussion, I wouldn't have the time...

ben g



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