YKY,
As I was saying, before I so rudely interrupted myself - re the narrow AI vs
AGI problem difference:
*the syllogistic problems of logic - is Aristotle mortal? etc - which you
mainly use as examples - are narrow AI problems, which can be solved
according to precise rules
however:
*metacognitive problems - like *which logic should I use for syllogistic
problems, eg PLN/NARS?" - (which also concerns you) - are AGI problems;
there are no rules for solving them, and no definitive solutions, only
possible, temporary resolutions to someone's satisfaction. Those are
problems which you have been discussing and could continue to discuss
interminably. And they are also problems which you will have - and any agent
considering, should have - fear considering, because you can get endlessly
bogged down in them
[n.b. psychologically, fear comes in many different degrees from panic to
mild wariness]
similarly
*is cybersex sex? (another of your problems) - if treated by some artificial
logic with artificial rules, (which might end up saying "yes, approx. 0.60 %
sex"), is a narrow AI problem; however, if treated realistically,
*philosophically*, relying on language, this is an AGI problem, which can be
and may well be considered interminably by real philosophers (and lawyers)
into the next century, (*did* Clinton have sex?) and for which there are
neither definitive rules nor solution . Again fear is, and has to be a part
of considering such problems - how much life do you have to spend on them?
Even the biggest computer brain in the world, the superestAGI will not be
able to solve them definitively, and must be afraid of them
ditto:
*Any philosophical problem of definition: what is mind? What is
consciousness? What is intelligence? Again these are infinitely open-ended,
open-means problems, which have atttracted and will continue to attract
interminable consideration. You are, and should be, afraid, of "getting too
deep into them"
*Any linguistic problem of definition: what does "honour","beautiful," "big"
"small" etc mean? is an AGI problem AFAIK literally any word in the
language is open to endless definition and redefinition and essentially an
AGI problem. By contrast, *what is ETFUBAIL an anagram of?" is a narrow AI
problem - and no need for any fear there.
*Defining/describing almost anything - "describe YKY or Ben Goertzel; what
kind of guys/ programmers are they?" - are AGI problems. You could consider
them forever. You may be skilled at resolving them quickly, and able to come
up with a brief description, but that again while perhaps "satisfactory"
will never do the subject even remotely perfect justice, and could be
endlessly improved and sophisticated.
In general, your instinct - and most AGI-ers' instinct - seems to be,
whenever confronted with an AGI problem, to try and reduce it to a narrow
AGI problem - from a real, open-ended/ open-means-and-rules to an
artificial, closed-ended, closed-means-and-rules problem. Then, yes, you
don't need fear and other emotions, but that's not AGI.
YKY:I just want to point out that
AGI-with-emotions is not necessary goal of AGI.
Which AGI as distinct from narrow AI problems do *not* involve
*incalculable and possibly unmanageable risks*? -
a)risks that the process of problem-solving will be interminable?
b)risks that the agent does not have the skills necessary for the
problem's solution?
c)risks that the agent hasn't defined the problem properly?
That's what the emotion of fear is - (one of the emotions essential for
AGI) - a system alert to incalculable and possibly unmanageable risks.
That's what the classic fight-or-flight response entails - "maybe I can
deal with this danger but maybe I can't and better avoid it fast."
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