--- On Wed, 11/12/08, Harry Chesley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Matt Mahoney wrote:
> >> 2) It is real, as it clearly influences our thoughts. On the other
> >> hand, though it feels subjectively like it is qualitatively
> >> different from other aspects of the world, it probably isn't (but
> >> I'm open to being wrong here).
> >
> > The correct statement is that you believe it is real. Everybody does.
> > Those who didn't, did not pass on their DNA.
> 
> No, the correct statement is the one I made. It is real. We have
> empirical evidence that it is real since it influences
> observable actions.

If you don't define consciousness in terms of an objective test, then you can 
say anything you want about it.

-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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