On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> RL:So, to clarify:  yes, it is perfectly true that the very low level
> perceptual and motor systems use simple coding techniques.  We have
> known for decades (since Hubel and Weisel) that retinal ganglion cells
> use simple coding schemes, etc etc.But the issue I was discussing was about
> the times when neuroscientists
> make statements about high level concepts and the processing of those
> concepts. ..it is very difficult to
> see how single neurons (or multiple redundant sets of neurons) could
> carry out those functions.
>
> Well, why is it so discredited?

MIke, it's just not the way the brain works ... we have enough empirical
data to know that...


>At base,  don't concepts like "tree","ball"
> etc. have to be represented by basically the same images as dealt with by
> the perceptual and motor systems - i.e. the sounds and letters of the words,
> "tree" and "ball"? Of course, each, when used, may involve a whole
> additional complex of often shifting associated concepts and images. But
> doesn't the same base image, or cluster of images, have to be used each time
> when we use those words? And couldn't that be neuronally locatable?
>
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