On Dec 19, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Colin Hales wrote:
The answer to this is that you can implement it in software. But you won't do that because the result is not an AGI, but an actor with a script. I actually started AGI believing that software would do it. When I got into the details of the issue of qualia (their role and origins) I found that software alone would not do the trick.
Nonsense, an algorithmic system is describable entirely based on input and output without any regard for its internal structure. If two blackbox systems produce identical output based on identical input, then they are mathematically equivalent in every meaningful sense even if they have radically different internal construction.
You say "actor with a script" as if that means something important, ignoring that every process in our universe is necessarily equivalent to an "actor with a script". Your magical EM chip is, in fact, "an actor with a script".
The simplest way to get to the position I inhabit is to consider that the electromagnetic field has access to more information (about the world outside the agent) than that available through peripheral nerve signaling. It's the additional information that is thrown away with a model of the electromagnetic field.
This does not even make sense. Either the software model captures the measurable properties of the EM field or it does not, but either way it does not support your proposal. In the former case, the external input and dynamic *must* be measurable and therefore can be reflected in the software model, and in the latter case it is nothing more than handwaving about something you are asserting exists in the complete absence of material evidence. I'm having a hard time accepting that there is something you can specify and measure that magically has no useful software description. That is not even supposed to be possible as a kind of basic mathematical theorem thing.
I mean, you are asserting that some very specific inputs to the system are not being modeled, and if you know this then you can very easily add them to the software-modeled system. You have not explained why this is not possible, merely asserted it.
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