Vladimir Nesov wrote:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Richard Loosemore <[email protected]> wrote:
The whole point about the paper referenced above is that they are collecting
(in a large number of cases) data that is just random noise.
So what? The paper points out a methodological problem that in itself
has little to do with neuroscience.
Not correct at all: this *is* neuroscience. I don't understand why you
say that it is not.
The field as a whole is hardly
mortally afflicted with that problem
I mentioned it because there is a context in which this sits. The
context is that an entire area - which might be called "deriving
psychological conclusions from barin scan data" - is getting massive
funding and massive attention, and yet it is quite arguably in an
Emperor's New Clothes state. In other words, the conclusions being
drawn are (for a variety of reasons) of very dubious quality.
(whether it's even real or not).
It is real.
If you look at any field large enough, there will be bad science.
According to the significant number of people who criticize it, this
field appears to be dominated by bad science. This is not just an
isolated case.
How
is it relevant to study of AGI?
People here are sometimes interested in cognitive science matters, and
some are interested in the concept of building an AGI by brain
emulation. Neuroscience is relevant to that.
Beyond that, this is just an FYI.
I really do not care to put much effort into this. If people are
interested, they can read the paper. But if they doubt the validity of
the entire idea that there is a problem with neuroscience claims about
psychological processes, I'm afraid I do not have the time to argue,
simply because the level of general expertise here is not such that I
can discuss it without explaining the whole critique from scratch.
As you say, it is not important enough, in an AGI context, to spend much
time on.
Richard Loosemore
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