Anyone who could suggest making crime impossible is SO far removed from reality that it is hard to imagine that they function in society.
I cleared this obviously confusing statement up with Matt. What I meant to say was "impossible to get away with in public (in America I guess) because of mass surveillance." Perhaps not feasible in rural areas but in populated zones I think it could happen if we decided to invest our defense budget into domestic surveillance programs. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Steve Richfield <steve.richfi...@gmail.com>wrote: > Ian, Travis, etc. > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On 27 June 2010 22:21, Travis Lenting <travlent...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I think crime has to be made impossible even for an enhanced humans >>> first. >> >> >> If our enhancement was Internet based it could be turned off if we were >> about to commit a crime. You really should have said "unenhanced" humans. If >> my conversation (see above) was about jihad and terrorism AI would provide a >> route for the security services. I think you are muddled here. >> > > Anyone who could suggest making crime impossible, anyone who could respond > to such nonsense other than pointing out that it is nonsense, is SO far > removed from reality that it is hard to imagine that they function in > society. Here are some points for those who don't see this as obvious: > 1. Much/most "crime" is committed by people who see little/no other > "rational" choice. > 2. Crime is a state of mind. Almost any act would be reasonable under SOME > bizarre circumstances perceived by the perpetrator. It isn't the actions, > but rather the THOUGHT that makes it a crime. > 3. Courts are there to decide complex issues like necessity (e.g. self > defense or defense of others), understanding (e.g. mental competence), and > the myriad other issues needed to establish a particular act as a crime. > 4. Crimes are defined through a legislative process, by "the best > government that money can buy". This would simply consign everything (and > everyone) to the wealthy people who have bought the government. Prepare for > slavery. > 5. Our world is already so over-constrained that it is IMPOSSIBLE to live > without violating any laws. > > Is the proposal to make impossible anything that could conceivably be > construed as a crime, or to make impossible anything that couldn't be > construed as anything but a crime? Even these two extremes would have > significant implementation problems. > > Anyway, I am sending you two back to kindergarten. > > Steve > > *agi* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
