Sorry, the link I included was invalid, this is what I meant: http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~raubal/Publications/RefConferences/ICSC_2009_AdamsRaubal_Camera-FINAL.pdf
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:28 AM, rob levy <r.p.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Steve Richfield < > steve.richfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Rob, >> >> I just LOVE opaque postings, because they identify people who see things >> differently than I do. I'm not sure what you are saying here, so I'll make >> some "random" responses to exhibit my ignorance and elicit more explanation. >> >> > I think based on what you wrote, you understood (mostly) what I was trying > to get across. So I'm glad it was at least quasi-intelligible. :) > > >> It sounds like this is a finer measure than the "dimensionality" that I >> was referencing. However, I don't see how to reduce anything as quantized as >> dimensionality into finer measures. Can you say some more about this? >> >> > I was just referencing Gardenfors' research program of "conceptual spaces" > (I was intentionally vague about committing to this fully though because I > don't necessarily think this is the whole answer). Page 2 of this article > summarizes it pretty succinctly: http:// <http://goog_1627994790> > www.geog.ucsb.edu/.../ICSC_2009_AdamsRaubal_Camera-FINAL.pdf > > > >> However, different people's brains, even the brains of identical twins, >> have DIFFERENT mappings. This would seem to mandate experience-formed >> topology. >> >> > > Yes definitely. > > >> Since these conceptual spaces that structure sensorimotor >>> expectation/prediction (including in higher order embodied exploration of >>> concepts I think) are multidimensional spaces, it seems likely that some >>> kind of neural computation over these spaces must occur, >>> >> >> I agree. >> >> >>> though I wonder what it actually would be in terms of neurons, (and if >>> that matters). >>> >> >> I don't see any route to the answer except via neurons. >> > > I agree this is true of natural intelligence, though maybe in modeling, the > neural level can be shortcut to the topo map level without recourse to > neural computation (use some more straightforward computation like matrix > algebra instead). > > Rob > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
