I vote FOR all

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:04 AM Becca Lee via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I vote like this and have tcbapo do the same
>
> 8459*  Jason, [1]               3.0   Talismans
> FOR
> 8460*  G., ais523               3.0   UV-G Sunblock
> FOR
> 8461l  R. Lee, Aris             2.0   Redoing Adopted Proposals
> FOR (as a reminder, all of these provisions were adopted but failed because
> of incorrect specifications)
> 8462*  Jason, Falsifian         3.0   Fee-based methods
> FOR
> 8463*  Jason                    3.0   Future-proofing black ribbons
> AGAINST
> 8464j  R. Lee                   1.0   You can certify, but you can't win
> ever!
> FOR
> 8465j  Jason, P.S.S.            1.0   Public defense
> FOR
> 8466l  ATMunn                   1.0   the simple option
> FOR
> 8467e  Jason, Trigon            2.0   Talismans auction patch
> Kill me, FOR
> 8468*  Jason, nch, G.           3.0   Decision resolution patch
> AGAINST (found not necessary by CFJ)
> 8469f  Aris, [1]                2.0   Bureaucratic Reengineering
> FOR
> 8470l  nch, G., Trigon          1.0   Sponsored Proposals
> PRESENT unless either proposal 8464 or 8466 has passed, in which case
> AGAINST
> 8471j  R. Lee, Aris             1.7   Only the PM can be arbitrary!
> 'FOR
> 8472p  Aris                     2.0   Welcoming Back Outlaws, etc.
> FOR
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:55 PM Aris Merchant via agora-official <
> agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
> >
> > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
> > and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote
> > collector
> > is the Assessor, the quorum is 8, the voting method is AI-majority, and
> the
> > valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
> > conditional votes).
> >
> > ID     Author(s)                AI    Title
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 8459*  Jason, [1]               3.0   Talismans
> > 8460*  G., ais523               3.0   UV-G Sunblock
> > 8461l  R. Lee, Aris             2.0   Redoing Adopted Proposals
> > 8462*  Jason, Falsifian         3.0   Fee-based methods
> > 8463*  Jason                    3.0   Future-proofing black ribbons
> > 8464j  R. Lee                   1.0   You can certify, but you can't win
> > ever!
> > 8465j  Jason, P.S.S.            1.0   Public defense
> > 8466l  ATMunn                   1.0   the simple option
> > 8467e  Jason, Trigon            2.0   Talismans auction patch
> > 8468*  Jason, nch, G.           3.0   Decision resolution patch
> > 8469f  Aris, [1]                2.0   Bureaucratic Reengineering
> > 8470l  nch, G., Trigon          1.0   Sponsored Proposals
> > 8471j  R. Lee, Aris             1.7   Only the PM can be arbitrary!
> > 8472p  Aris                     2.0   Welcoming Back Outlaws, etc.
> >
> > The proposal pool contains the following proposals:
> >
> > Author(s)                AI    Title
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > G.                       3.0   no backdating needed
> > omd, nch                 1.0   Reset deadlines when resetting the economy
> > Falsifian, G.            1.0   Contract charities
> > Murphy                   1.7   Decriminalization
> > Murphy, G.               1.0   Generalized card auctions
> > omd                      1.0   Stop disincentivizing bugfixes
> >
> > [1] nch, Falsifian
> > [2] Alexis, Falsifian, nch, G.
> >
> > Legend: <ID>* : Democratic proposal.
> >         <ID># : Ordinary proposal, unset chamber.
> >         <ID>e : Economy ministry proposal.
> >         <ID>f : Efficiency ministry proposal.
> >         <ID>j : Justice ministry proposal.
> >         <ID>l : Legislation ministry proposal.
> >         <ID>p : Participation ministry proposal.
> >
> >
> > The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
> > the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
> > the information shown above shall control.
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8459
> > Title: Talismans
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: Aris
> > Co-authors: nch, Falsifian, G.
> >
> >
> > For the purposes of this proposal, a player's prior master is eir master
> > before this proposal applies any effects.
> >
> > Amend Rule 2532 to read, in whole:
> > {
> >
> >   A talisman is an indestructible asset, tracked by the Registrar, and
> >   with ownership wholly restricted to players and Agora. There exists
> >   exactly one talisman for each player, and no other talismans; if one
> >   does not exist for a certain player, it is created in eir posession.
> >   Talismans CAN only be transferred as explicitly specified by the rules.
> >   The creation, destruction, and transfer of talismans is secured.
> >
> >   Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, a player CAN, by announcement,
> >   transfer the talisman for em to emself. The master of a player is the
> >   entity that possesses the talisman for em. A player who is eir own
> >   master is active; any other player is a zombie (syn. inactive).
> >
> >   The master of a zombie CAN act on behalf of em, except a master CANNOT
> >   act on behalf of a zombie to:
> >       - initiate, support, object to, or perform a dependent action;
> >       - act on behalf of that zombie's zombies;
> >       - bid in a zombie auction;
> >       - enter a contract, pledge, or other type of agreement;
> >       - initiate a Call for Judgement;
> >       - create blots;
> >       - deregister.
> >
> >   If a master causes a zombie to perform an ILLEGAL action, the master
> >   commits the Class 4+N Crime of Masterminding (where N is the class of
> >   the illegal action).
> >
> >   If an active player who was a zombie has not received a Welcome Package
> >   since e most recently ceased being a zombie, and if eir resale value
> was
> >   less than 2 at any point during eir most recent time as a zombie, then
> >   any player CAN cause em to receive a Welcome Package by announcement.
> >
> > }
> >
> > Amend Rule 2574 to read, in whole:
> > {
> >
> >   Any player CAN, with notice, transfer the talisman for an active player
> >   who has not made a public announcement in the past 60 days to Agora.
> >
> >   Resale value is a secured natural switch for zombies, tracked by the
> >   Registrar, with a default value of 2. Whenever the talisman for a
> zombie
> >   is transferred to a player, that zombie's resale value is decreased by
> >   1. At the end of a zombie auction, the resale value of every zombie
> that
> >   is an excess lot in that auction decreases by 1.
> >
> >   The talisman for a zombie with zero resale value CANNOT be transferred
> >   to any player other than that zombie.
> >
> >   Any player CAN, with notice:
> >       - If a zombie has been a zombie for the past 90 days and not had
> >         Agora for a master during any of that time, transfer the talisman
> > for
> >         em to Agora;
> >       - If a player possesses more than one talisman, specify and
> transfer
> >         one of those talismans to Agora;
> >       - Deregister a zombie whose resale value is zero and whose master
> is
> >         Agora.
> >
> >   The Registrar SHALL track the date for each zombie on which Agora was
> >   most recently eir master. The Registrar SHALL perform all POSSIBLE
> >   actions in the preceding paragraph in a timely fashion after first
> >   reporting their possibility via the facts in eir weekly report.
> >
> > }
> >
> >
> > Amend Rule 1885 to read, in whole:
> > {
> >
> >   Whenever a zombie has Agora for a master and has a resale value greater
> >   than 0, and when eir talisman is not currently a lot in an auction and
> >   has not been won as an auction lot in the past 14 days, then the
> >   Registrar CAN put that zombie's talisman (along with any other
> talismans
> >   that fulfill the same conditions) up for auction.
> >
> >   In a timely fashion after the beginning of each month, the Registrar
> >   SHALL either initiate such an auction or, if no talismans meeting these
> >   conditions existed at the beginning of the month, announce that no such
> >   auction is necessary.
> >
> >   For such an auction, each lot consists of the talisman for one zombie,
> >   ordered at the discretion of the Registrar. The Registrar is the
> >   auctioneer, and the minimum bid is 1. The method to be used for this
> >   auction is the zombie auction method if such a method exists, or
> >   otherwise the default auction method.
> >
> > }
> >
> > Amend Rule 2575 by replacing the final sentence with
> >   "Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, the talisman for the
> Distributor
> >   is possessed by emself (and is transferred to em if it ever is not),
> and
> >   e CANNOT deregister or be deregistered."
> >
> > For each player who is not eir own prior master, transfer the talisman
> > for em to eir prior master.
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8460
> > Title: UV-G Sunblock
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: G.
> > Co-authors: ais523
> >
> >
> > Amend Rule 2438 (Ribbons) by replacing:
> >   Ultraviolet (U): When a person is awarded the Patent Title
> >   Champion, that person earns an Ultraviolet Ribbon.
> > with:
> >   Ultraviolet (U): When a person is awarded the Patent Title
> >   Champion, that person earns an Ultraviolet Ribbon, unless
> >   the Champion title was awarded as the result of winning
> >   the game via this rule.
> >
> >
> > Ultraviolet is hereby removed from G.'s Ribbon Ownership.
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8461
> > Title: Redoing Adopted Proposals
> > Adoption index: 2.0
> > Author: R. Lee
> > Co-authors: Aris
> >
> >
> > Amend rule 2450 "Pledges" by inserting the following sentence after
> >  the words "where N is 2 unless the pledge explicitly states otherwise":
> > {It is also Oathbreaking for a player to let a pledge expire without
> taking
> >  an action e pledged to do in that pledge. }
> >
> > Amend rule 2531 "Defendant's Rights" by renumbering the list items so
> that
> > each item is preceded by a number one above the previous item, except the
> > first item which is preceded by the number 1.
> >
> > Amend rule 2557 "Sentencing Guidelines" by replacing "where P is the
> > minimum of the value of the fine and 3" with "where P is the value of the
> > fine"
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8462
> > Title: Fee-based methods
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: Jason
> > Co-authors: Falsifian
> >
> >
> > Amend Rule 2579 by replacing the first three paragraphs with the
> following:
> >
> > {
> >
> >   If the Rules associate payment of a set of assets (hereafter the fee
> for
> >   the action; syns: cost, price, charge) with performing an action, that
> >   method for performing that action is a fee-based method.
> >
> >   If the fee is a non-integer quantity of a fungible asset, the actual
> fee
> >   is the next highest integer amount of that asset.
> >
> >   To use a fee-based method, an entity (the Actor) who is otherwise
> >   permitted to perform the action must announce that e is performing the
> >   action; the announcement must specify the correct set of assets for the
> >   fee and indicate intent to pay that fee for the sole purpose of using
> >   that method to perform that action.
> >
> > }
> >
> > and replacing the final paragraph with the following:
> >
> > {
> >
> >   If a fee-based method to perform an action has a fee of no assets, that
> >   action CAN be performed by announcement, but the actor SHOULD announce
> >   that there was a 0 or empty fee.
> >
> > }
> >
> >
> > [Inspired by Falsifian pointing out that winning the game is/was a
> > fee-based action, which might have meant that all attempts to win the
> > game required a fee. This removes actions being fee-based and instead
> > makes methods fee-based. This change is also designed to keep all
> > protections and (hopefully) protect existing precedent for fee-based
> > actions.]
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8463
> > Title: Future-proofing black ribbons
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: Jason
> > Co-authors:
> >
> >
> > Amend Rule 2438 (Ribbons) by replacing the text "An Instrument CAN, as
> > part of its effect" with the text "A statute CAN, as part of its effect".
> >
> >
> > [Legislative intent is that black ribbons are to be awarded for a
> > dictatorship of any power. The current wording does not reflect this -
> > it instead permits black ribbons to be awarded for controlling a body of
> > law. Since part of the idea of bodies of law was to expand them to
> > regulations and contracts, this is a ticking time-bomb that could result
> > in giving black ribbons to anybody capable of forming a contract.]
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8464
> > Title: You can certify, but you can't win ever!
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: Aris
> > Co-authors:
> >
> >
> > Amend rule 2626 "Certifiable Patches" to read, in full "Any player
> > CAN, by announcement, certify a specified proposal, causing it to become
> > pending. A player SHALL NOT do so. Doing so is the Class-25 crime of
> > Legislative Misconduct. The amount of Blots given for this crime SHOULD
> be
> > significantly reduced in and only in cases of utter and manifest
> necessity"
> >
> > Retitle rule 2626 to "Costly Certification"
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8465
> > Title: Public defense
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: Jason
> > Co-authors: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> >
> >
> > Amend Rule 2617 (Defense Against the Dark Arts) by replacing "Attempting
> > a forbidden action" with "Publicly attempting a forbidden action".
> >
> > [This makes joke attempts to a-d or attempts outside of Agora not
> > punishable.]
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8466
> > Title: the simple option
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: ATMunn
> > Co-authors:
> >
> >
> > Repeal Rule 2626 "Certifiable Patches".
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8467
> > Title: Talismans auction patch
> > Adoption index: 2.0
> > Author: Jason
> > Co-authors: Trigon
> >
> >
> > Amend Rule 1885 by deleting the sentence beginning "The method to be
> > used for this auction".
> >
> > [This fixes a specification bug in the talismans proposal, since
> > auctions are now supposed to have their method determined by the
> > auctioneer, rather than a rule. If talismans has not been adopted, then
> > this will have no effect.]
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8468
> > Title: Decision resolution patch
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: Jason
> > Co-authors: nch, G.
> >
> >
> > Amend Rule 208 by replacing the text "To be valid, this announcement
> > must satisfy the following conditions" with the text "To be EFFECTIVE,
> > such an attempt must satisfy the following conditions".
> >
> > [This resolves a potential bug that *may* permit the vote collector of a
> > decision to resolve it without adhering to the conditions in the
> > numbered list of Rule 208 based on the precise wording of how the
> > conditions are enforced. The argument that they don't work is that the
> > sentence doesn't sufficiently override R208's earlier statement that
> > "The vote collector for an unresolved Agoran decision CAN resolve it by
> > announcement, indicating the outcome.", because it describes the
> > announcement, rather than the attempt itself.
> >
> > Even if that interpretation is wrong, there is enough of an ambiguity
> > that it should be resolved. The new wording makes this clearer by
> > describing the /attempt/ as INEFFECTIVE (clearly overriding the earlier
> > CAN) rather than the "announcement".]
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8469
> > Title: Bureaucratic Reengineering
> > Adoption index: 2.0
> > Author: Aris
> > Co-authors: Alexis, Falsifian, nch, G.
> >
> >
> > If there is a rule entitled "The Administrative State" amend it to have
> the
> > text labelled "NEW TEXT" below. Otherwise, enact a new power 2.0 rule
> > entitled
> > "The Administrative State", with the text labelled "NEW TEXT" below.
> >
> > NEW TEXT: {
> >   Each officer CAN, with 1.5 Agoran consent, enact, amend, or repeal
> >   eir own office's Administrative Regulations. If e has won an election
> for
> >   the office in the last 7 days, e CAN repeal them by announcement.
> >   Administrative Regulations have the following properties:
> >
> >   1. An officer SHALL NOT violate eir office's administrative regulations
> > in
> >      the discharge of eir office.
> >   2. Any player CAN act on behalf of an officer to exercise eir official
> >      powers as authorized by eir office's administrative regulations.
> >   3. All players SHOULD abide by an officer's administrative regulations
> >      in matters relating to eir area of responsibility.
> >   }
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8470
> > Title: Sponsored Proposals
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: nch
> > Co-authors: G., Trigon
> >
> >
> > Amend R2622, "Pending Proposals", to read in full:
> >
> >   Pended is an untracked negative boolean proposal switch.
> >
> >   Any player CAN pay 1 Pendant to flip the Pended switch of a
> >   specified proposal to True. If the player did not create the
> >   proposal and is not listed in the list of co-authors of the
> >   proposal, e is added to the list of co-authors. When e does so,
> >   the proposal becomes sponsored.
> >
> >   The Promotor CAN, with 2+X support, flip the Pended switch of a
> >   proposal in the Proposal Pool to true. For this, X is equal to the
> >   number of times e has done so in the past 7 days.
> >
> >   Any player CAN, without objection, flip the Pended switch of a
> >   proposal in the Proposal Pool to true.
> >
> >   A proposal with a Pended switch set to True is 'pending'.
> >
> > Repeal R2626 "Certifiable Patches".
> >
> > Amend R2623, "Popular Proposal Proposer Privilege", by replacing:
> >
> >   The player who proposed the adopted proposal whose referendum had
> >   the greatest popularity among all referenda assessed in the last 7
> >   days CAN once earn one Legislative Card by announcement, provided
> >   that no referendum initiated in the same message as it remains
> >   unresolved. If there is a tie, all authors of the tied proposals
> >   can do so once each.
> >
> > with:
> >
> >   The author of the most popular sponsored proposal adopted in the
> >   last 7 days CAN once earn one Legislative Card by announcement,
> >   provided that no referenda initiated in the same message as it
> >   remain unresolved. If there is a tie, all authors of the tied
> >   proposals can do so once each.
> >
> > Amend R2496, "Rewards", by replacing "an adopted proposal" with "an
> > adopted sponsored proposal".
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8471
> > Title: Only the PM can be arbitrary!
> > Adoption index: 1.7
> > Author: R. Lee
> > Co-authors: Aris
> >
> >
> > Repeal Rule 2479/6 "Official Injustice"
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > ID: 8472
> > Title: Welcoming Back Outlaws, etc.
> > Adoption index: 2.0
> > Author: Aris
> > Co-authors:
> >
> >
> > Amend Rule 2499, "Welcome Packages", by replacing:
> >
> >   A player CANNOT receive a Welcome Package via this method if e was
> >   deregistered on account of having excessive blots.
> > with:
> >   A player CANNOT receive a Welcome Package via this method if e has been
> >   deregistered on account of having excessive blots within the last 30
> >   days.
> >
> >
> > Amend Rule 2124, "Agoran Satisfaction", by replacing:
> >
> >   The above notwithstanding, if an action depends on objections, and
> >   an objection to an intent to perform it has been withdrawn within
> >   the past 24 hours, then Agora is not Satisfied with that intent.
> > with:
> >   The above notwithstanding, if an action is to be performed without N
> >   objections or with N Agoran consent, and an objection to an intent
> >   to perform it has been withdrawn within the past 24 hours, then Agora
> >   is not Satisfied with that intent.
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > Title: no backdating needed
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: G.
> > Co-authors:
> >
> >
> > Amend Rule 1607 (Distribution) by replacing:
> >   The Promotor's report includes a list of all proposals in the
> >   Proposal Pool
> > with:
> >   The Promotor's report includes a list of all proposals that were
> >   in the Proposal Pool at the beginning of the current Agoran week
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > Title: Reset deadlines when resetting the economy
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: omd
> > Co-authors: nch
> >
> >
> > Retitle Rule 2621 (VP Wins) to "Economic Victory", and amend it by
> > replacing:
> >
> >   If a player has at least 20 more Victory Points than any other
> >   player, e CAN win by announcement. When a player wins this way,
> >   all Cards and all Products are destroyed. Then each non-zombie
> >   player is granted 1 card of each type.
> >
> > with:
> >
> >   If a player has at least 20 more Victory Points than any other
> >   player, e CAN trigger an Economic Victory by announcement,
> >   causing em to win the game.
> >
> >   When an Economic Victory occurs, all Cards and all Products are
> >   destroyed; then each non-zombie player is granted 1 card of each
> >   type.
> >
> > Amend Rule 2624 (Card Administration) by replacing:
> >
> >   An officer CAN, once per month and by announcement, grant another
> >   player a specified type of card under the following conditions:
> >
> > with:
> >
> >   An officer CAN grant another player a specified type of card by
> >   announcement under the following conditions:
> >
> > and by adding this bullet point between the first and second ones:
> >
> >   * e has not already granted the same type of card this way since
> >     the start of the Agoran month or the last Economic Victory,
> >     whichever is later,
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > Title: Contract charities
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: Falsifian
> > Co-authors: G.
> >
> >
> > [Comment: The original version was by G..]
> >
> > Enact the following rule, Charities:
> >
> >   Donation Level is a natural switch for contracts, tracked by the
> >   Notary, with a default of 0 and a maximum of 25.  A contract with
> >   nonzero donation level is called a Charity.
> >
> >   The Notary CAN flip a contract's donation level to a non-default
> >   value with 3 Agoran consent.  This SHOULD only be done if the
> >   contract's provisions ensure that its funds will be used solely
> >   for the betterment of Agora.  Any player CAN flip a contract's
> >   donation level to 0 with Agoran consent.
> >
> >   Whenever a payday occurs, half of each charity's coin holdings
> >   (rounded down) are destroyed, and then each charity earns a
> >   number of coins equal to its donation level.
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > Title: Decriminalization
> > Adoption index: 1.7
> > Author: Murphy
> > Co-authors: G.
> >
> >
> > Amend Rule 2557 (Sentencing Guidelines) by replacing
> >   "Class N Crime"
> > with
> >   "Class N Crime" or "Class N Infraction"
> > and by replacing
> >   inconsequential infraction.
> > with
> >   inconsequential violation.
> >
> > Amend Rule 2619 (Indictment) by replacing "crime" with "violation".
> >
> > Amend Rule 2626 (Certifiable Patches) by replacing "unless its sole
> > function is" with "unless e reasonably believes its sole function is".
> >
> > [In addition to quibbles about "sole function", this also covers cases
> > like "I thought X was a minimal fix until someone suggested Y as an
> > alternative.]
> >
> > Amend Rule 2143 (Official Reports and Duties) by replacing "Crime of
> > Tardiness" with "Infraction of Tardiness".
> >
> > [This leaves Making My Eyes Bleed as a Crime.]
> >
> > [For reference, here are other SHALL NOTs that are not explicitly
> > defined as Crimes. The only functional purpose of such a definition
> > is that it can change the base fine from its default of 2, however
> > we may want to explicitly define some as Infractions to indicate that
> > they're generally not considered Seriously Immoral.
> >
> > Rule 1607 (Distribution), Promotor distributing non-pending proposal
> >
> > Rule 2619 (Indictment), fining a rejected indictment (should also be
> > changed from passive to active)
> >
> > Rule 911 (Motions and Moots), Arbitor reassigning a remitted judge
> > when another eligible judge expressed interest
> >
> > Rule 2175 (Judicial Retraction and Excess), making excess CFJs
> >
> > Rule 2471 (No Faking), lying
> >
> > Rule 2466 (Acting on Behalf), making someone else violate the rules
> > ]
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > Title: Stop disincentivizing bugfixes
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: omd
> > Co-authors:
> >
> >
> > Amend Rule 2626 (Certifiable Patches) by removing:
> >
> >   that relates to a) an office e holds; or b) a CFJ, open within the last
> >   week, of which e is the judge
> >
> > and by removing:
> >
> >   5. A problem relates to an office if it plausibly affects the area
> >      of the game the office is responsible for and relates to a CFJ
> >      if it could plausibly be interpreted to affect that CFJ's
> >      outcome.
> >
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >
>
>
> --
> From R. Lee
>

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