I don't know if I've ever seen someone use all-caps SHALL in a pledge.
> On May 22, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Quazie <[email protected]> wrote: > > Proposal: "Pledge Timelines" AI=1.7 Coauthor='G.' > {{{ > Replace the text of Rule 2450 with the following: > {{{ > Breaking a publicly-made pledge is a cardable offense. If a > publicly-made pledge > says a person SHALL do something, without providing a time limit, then e > SHALL in > a timely manner in order to not break said pledge. > }}} > }}} > > On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:08 PM Kerim Aydin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Phrase it as the default if no time limit is supplied, not a hard-coded >> only option. Like: "if a pledge says a person SHALL do something, without >> providing a time limit, then e SHALL in a timely manner in order to keep >> the pledge"). >> >> The problem with your phrasing: Think about SHALL NOTs instead of SHALLs. >> If someone pledges to NOT do something, do you really want to hard-code that >> they only have to refrain for a week, then they've fulfilled their pledge? >> >> On Mon, 22 May 2017, Quazie wrote: >> > I can't figure out the right way to note that a pledge SHALL be fulfilled >> > in a timely manner, but I only want to imply that the pledge >> > maker SHALL fulfil their end of the pledge, once the conditional is met, >> > but i want to do that without being overly perscriptive on >> > pledges.{{{ >> > >> > Breaking a publicly-made pledge is a cardable offense. A pledge SHALL be >> > fulfilled in a timely manner >> > >> > }}} >> > >> > The above seems to not quite imply what I want. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 1:24 PM Kerim Aydin <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 22 May 2017, Quazie wrote: >> > > Also - What's the time scale on fulfilling pledges? I assume in a >> > timely manner for >> > > general pledges like this one, but I am unsure. >> > >> > There's no Rules-specified time limit and the question's never been >> > asked >> > for pledges. For Rules-based SHALLs, if there's no explicit time >> > limit, I >> > don't think there is one. A fun example is this one: >> > Upon such an occurrence, the vote collector for the decision >> > SHALL issue a humiliating public reminder to the slackers who >> > have not yet cast any votes on it despite being eligible... >> > I think I've seen someone issue a reminder long after it was too >> > late! >> > >> > >> > >> >
