The argument 'I wouldn't do all that work in order to fake' is fallacious. Of course you would if you thought you could get away with it.
I think you constantly violate no faking by purposely misconstruing the rules to have meanings favorable to you, even when those meanings are nonesense. Then you plead ignorance when someone calls it out, or you stop responding and move onto the next bad faith attempt. I'd accept one or two peculiar interpretations from a single player as good faith, but you've purported many unlikely beliefs, and somehow they all favor your goals. Cut the bullshit out. On Jul 10, 2017 03:43, "Cuddle Beam" <cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote: > ...I totally understand why it could be be appropriate to card me for > trying the stick-up, but @grok, I don't understand the card part of if I > *fail* to deputize for Surveyor just yet. If the argument is that using a > loophole to try to get the office is "bad", shouldn't I be carded > *regardless* of if I fail or succeed? How does succeeding to get the office > somehow spare me of getting a card? (Either way, I'll accept the carding, > but I just want to understand that part better) > > All that aside, well, yeah. I accept all charges (except for the no faking > part, I wouldn't have written that wall of text if I didn't believe it had > at least a slither of chance of working. Or, on the flip side, I wouldn't > have written a huge wall of text with the aim to get a card when just > writing something way shorter is way easier. I totally get that it feels > heinous to try to pull off a stick-up like this though, but then again, if > it worked, it could all just pass quickly if people simply vote FOR lol. > But yeah, pretty evil.) > > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:09 AM, grok (caleb vines) <grokag...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Aris Merchant >> <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I point my finger at CuddleBeam for violation of Rule 2471. I argue >> > that air actions were so implausible that e could not reasonably have >> > believed them, and that at the very least e is absurdly negligent. >> > Given that this is having a huge impact on the players and the game >> > (look at the deregistrations), I recommend a sentence of a Red Card. >> > >> > -Aris >> > >> > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Nic Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would support, with a fair implementation. >> >> >> >> I point my finger at CB for failure to treat Agora Right Good Forever. >> >> >> >> I previously deregistered because I thought my explosive response to CB >> >> was my own issue, that e needed time to adjust, and I needed time to >> >> cool off. But I'm now convinced that's not the case. Everything CB does >> >> disrespects the time, effort, and feelings of every other player. >> >> >> >> I challenge people who are on the fence about this to point to a single >> >> time that CB has considered other players, or done necessary work, or >> >> done anything at all to make the game better or more enjoyable to >> anyone >> >> but emself. >> >> >> With these two finger points in play now, I'd like to make a quick >> reminder that I recommended Cuddlebeam be carded if eir attempt to >> deputize as Surveyor fails[1]. >> >> [1]: https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/m >> sg28819.html >> >> >> -grok >> > >
