If any "formal" mechanic can be scammed, I don't see how we could punish
someone at all via them then.

The only other solution I see is that the really strong cards are issued at
discretion of some single person or some democratic process. Town Jury? Its
logistics could be annoying though. hrm.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 1:00 AM, Aris Merchant <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Alex Smith <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 15:05 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote:
> >> I'm currently working on that unified contracts/orgs/agencies
> >> implementation I was talking about. I want non-player persons to be
> >> able to join contracts, which necessitates some penalty for breaches.
> >> This would also incidentally also fix that thing where G. couldn't be
> >> punished for publishing a false report because e wasn't a player. To
> >> understand what is meant by "persons who play the game" see CFJ 1709.
> >> Of course, most existing punishments are meaningless for non-players,
> >> so I had to come up with something. This proposal adds a new card,
> >> called a Black Card, which, upon activation, prevents the bad sport
> >> from registering or taking any game actions for 30 days.
> >
> > You need to be very very careful with this sort of mechanic, because if
> > there's any way to award such a card via scam, it can lead to one
> > player locking out all the others and gaining a dictatorship over time
> > (it'd just take four days in this case; attempt to Ratify Without
> > Objection a blatantly false statement that gives you an advantage, and
> > use Black Cards to lock everyone else out of objecting).
> >
> > I'd rather the mechanic were designed in such a way that even if
> > scammed, other players could still overcome the restrictions it imposes
> > somehow.
>
> There are already some fairly strong restrictions on how many cards
> the referee can issue per week. Still, this could be a problem. How's
> this addition:
>
> "A Black Card CANNOT be issued to current players, and no more than 3
> Black Cards
>   CAN be issued per week. Any attempt to issue a Black Card in violation
>   of these limitations is INEFFECTIVE."
>
> -Aris
>
> P.S. Can someone come up with a better name for Levying a Fine?
>
> -Aris
>

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