I haven't seen any sign of it making interesting gameplay thusfar: I
would vote to repeal (unless a use is found for them, such as in the
new contract proposal). Having said that: I agree with Aris. There has
been no sign of them being especially dangerous, or any more dangerous
than real legal systems.
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Aris Merchant
<thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Alexis Hunt <aler...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Decided to put my money where my mouth is.
>>
>> Proposal: Deregulation (AI=3)
>> {{{
>> Repeal Rule 2493 (Regulations).
>> Repeal Rule 2494 (The Regkeepor).
>> Amend Rule 2464 (Tournaments) to read as follows:
>> A Tournament is a sub-game of Agora specifically sanctioned
>> to be initiated as a tournament by the Rules. If a winner of a
>> tournament is determined within 4 weeks of its initiation, that
>> person or persons win the game, otherwise the tournament
>> concludes with no winner.
>>
>> In a timely fashion after the start of June 1 of each year,
>> the Herald SHALL propose a set of Regulations governing a
>> Birthday Tournament for that year; the Herald CAN also
>> delegate the responsibility for creating or running the
>> tournament to another player, with that player's consent.
>>
>> The Birthday Tournament's regulations SHOULD be such that all
>> persons who choose to participate have a fair chance of winning
>> the tournament (according to its regulations), and a winner
>> SHOULD be expected within 2-3 weeks following the tournament's
>> initiation.
>>
>> After adequate time for discussion of the Birthday Tournament's
>> regulations, the Herald (or delegate) CAN initiate a sanctioned
>> tournament with a specified, finalized set of regulations,
>> Without 3 Objections. The initiation SHOULD be timed to
>> coincide with Agora's Birthday.
>> Repeal Rule 2495 (The Birthday Tournament).
>> }}}
>>
>> This effectively just repeals regulations, which I think are very dangerous
>> and should not be used in place of things like contracts. Tournaments are
>> reverted to the pre-Regulations rules. I spend an AP to pend this proposal.
>
> Regulations are not dangerous, certainly not "very dangerous".
> Regulations only work at the power of their parent rule, and can only
> do what their parent rule says they can do. This is the first of
> several safeguards against their misuse. Admittedly, an over broad
> parent rule could do a lot of harm. However, we see no signs that they
> are likely to be used dangerously. Currently, all they do is to run
> the tournament, which isn't particularly dangerous. My contracts
> proposal would let them be used to throttle some contract actions
> within eminently reasonable bounds, and to exempt contracts from
> paying taxes, which isn't particularly dangerous either. The most
> dangerous thing they've been seriously suggested for is banking, such
> that they could used, within bounds, to control Agora's treasury. That
> needs more caution, but the proposal would have limits and would be
> promulgated by a three member commission, hopefully ensuring broad
> support. There was that it was suggested that they be used for chevron
> deference, but that proposal was quickly shouted down as overly broad
> and was never a serious proposal anyway, as confessed by the author.
> Second, regulations require agoran consent to adopt by default,
> ensuring that they can't be passed without public agreement. Third,
> proposals can always change regulations anyway, so people can get rid
> of them if they don't like them. I think there are sufficient
> safeguards in place to ensure that regulations are used safely. If you
> wish to suggest additional safeguards, I'm fairly likely to support
> them. However, I see no need to repeal an interesting system that will
> make for interesting gameplay.
>
> -Aris
--
>From V.J. Rada
