I'm assuming this is the location to complain about a-o being messed up. I've been out of town and haven't read through this thread really well.

I cannot log into the a-o private archives. Every time I try to, it just takes me to the login screen again. It works with a-b and a-d though.

On 6/17/2018 7:30 AM, ATMunn wrote:
I did the same. I asked for people to respond if it was received, and there were no responses. In fact, I normally receive a copy of my own messages, and I didn't with this one.

On 6/17/2018 3:09 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
Not sure if this helps, but I sent a test email to Official on Friday to try and narrow down the problem. It hasn't even showed up in the list at mail-archive.com, let alone been delivered to anybody.

-twg
​​

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐

On June 16, 2018 11:22 PM, Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

​​

Okay, anyone using gmail didn't receive it. However, this can't just be

gmail's fault, because plenty of people who aren't using gmail also haven't

received it. I'm quite confused. It would be great if those who have

received the messages could look at the headers and see if anything looks

different from pre-problem OFF and the other lists, because this is just

weird.

-Aris

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM Ned Strange edwardostra...@gmail.com

wrote:

same

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM, ATMunn iamingodsa...@gmail.com wrote:

The original message? No, I haven't received it.

On 6/15/2018 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:

Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use

the honor system.

-Aris

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu

wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:

Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my

prior

CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."

Gratuitous: The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via

the

list

reasonably quickly after I sent it. I'm including the full headers

below

in

case it helps interpret anything:

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Subject: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8050-8052

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I resolve the Agoran Decisions to adopt Proposals 8050-8052 as follows.

Quorum is 6 for all of these proposals.

[Remainder of message cut]

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:34 PM Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu

wrote:

Er, might want to check the Proposal # in the CFJ statement...

I'll re-send the resolution to converge the gamestate in case it

failed

before. I think the only things I did for zombies were

announcements-of-

intent so I don't think the time difference breaks anything (yet!)

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:

Just checked the unofficial OFF mail archive. The message got eaten

on

its

way to me, and maybe some other people, but definitely went to,

which is

super scary.

I CFJ "Proposal 1905 has been resolved."

Arguments:

Per CFJ 1905, non-receipt of a message by those who have arraigned

to

receive messages via the forum is grounds to regard actions taken

therein

as invalid. My spam filter didn't eat it (I've checked, and it's

also set

never to eat Agora stuff) so it probably never entered my technical

domain

of control.
-----------

We really need to figure out these server problems ASAP.

-Aris

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:06 PM Aris Merchant <

thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Did you ever resolve proposal 8050? I certainly can't find a

resolution...

-Aris

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:09 AM Kerim Aydin <

ke...@u.washington.edu>

wrote:

You couldn't have anyway because PLEDGES CAN NO LONGER BE

DESTROYED,

WITHOUT OBJECTION OR OTHERWISE.

They can't be destroyed at all because they're no longer assets.

Please

read

Proposal 8050 - the only way for a pledge to end is to time out

(and

that

doesn't outright "destroy" it, it just makes it untracked and

non-punishable).

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Corona wrote:

T.T I couldn't have acted on that intent any earlier than next

Tuesday,

and

the dynasty will definitely be over by then.

~Corona

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Cuddle Beam <

cuddleb...@gmail.com>

wrote:

I object to Corona’s attempt, because the dynasty isn’t over

just

yet

(will

be soon though).

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 06:35, Corona <

liliumalbum.ag...@gmail.com

wrote:

Without objection I intend to retract every pledge I own.

(the

BlogNomic

one is no longer useful, too)

¯Corona

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:02 AM, Ned Strange <

edwardostra...@gmail.com>

wrote:

Without objection I intend to retract each pledge I own.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Kerim Aydin <

ke...@u.washington.edu>

wrote:

The below pledge list from the June 3 Referee Report

self-ratified

prior

to Proposal 8050 taking effect. The pledge dates (date

tracking now

required by the Notary) don't self-ratify, but I did go

back and

confirm.

Searching for 'pledge' in public archives back to March

revealed no

other

recent pledges. Pledges older than 60 days no longer

require

tracking.

=the Referee, whose next report will be shorter=

PLEDGES (self-ratifying list of assets)

== Trigon - Created 01 Jun 2018 07:35:31

I pledge to use as much integrity as is possible

whenever I

generate

random numbers.

== Corona - Created 27 May 2018 17:29:28

I pledge to do all of the following in Blognomic's

current

dynasty:

-always ahoy

Gams

-call hunts most of the time

-not change derrick’s or Cuddlebeam’s position if they

perform

their

duties

adequately (scrubbing, joining hunts if healthy…)

-scrub the decks whenever I

am online and can do so

-generally work toward the preservation of the ship and

the

lives of

sailors, and maximizing profits

== G. - Created 10 May 2018 15:39:57

I pledge that I will not make any bids on behalf of

zombies

in

the

May

2018 zombie auction.

===(below pledges were created prior to 01 Apr 2018)===

Quazie -

I pledge to give 1 Shiny to the first person who can,

correctly, with e-mail citations, explain what I did

wrong

on

Jan 20th 2009 that has since led to me being a

fugitive. For

the explanation to be valid for this pledge, it should

be

fully

self contained, I should not have to go look up past

rules

in

order to understand the explanation (So please, include

all

source info in the explanation).

V.J Rada -

I pledge not to make any thread titles completely

unrelated

to

the email's content, nor use any agency or other

mechanism

to

attempt to gain control of any player at the exclusion

of

all

other players.

Gaelan (14 Sep 2017) -

I pledge to, for at least the next month, vote AGAINST

any

proposal that amends rules by providing new text in full

unless

the text of the rule is nearly entirely changed.

nichdel -

I pledge to vote AGAINST on all proposals created or

pended

by

Cuddle Beam.

nichdel -

I pledge to Object to all intentions by Cuddle Beam

that I

can

object to.

nichdel -

I pledge to give a trust token and 5 shinies (as soon as

possible) to any other player who also performs the

above

three

pledges, except Cuddle Beam.

nichdel -

I pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -

I too pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -

I...pledge to fix the margins, if the issue is

explained to

me.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -

I pledge to deputize for the rulekeepor on October 19,

2017, if

it is

still possible.

Cuddlebeam -

I pledge to hook people up in a reasonable amount of

time,

according

to the message above, during what's left of the current

month

and

November.

[Referee's note: This pledge refers to the message

listed

athttps://www.mail-archive.com/agora

business at agoranomic.org/msg30230.html]

V.J. Rada -

I pledge to give a win and a black ribbon to everyone

who

votes

for

"hopefully you guys all vote for this" if that passes.

o - (Nov 7, '17)

I pledge to pay 5 sh. to the first person to publicly

identify

the

specific bug I fixed in the Surveyor’s report this week,

provided

their answer includes either the word, some synonym for

the

word, or

some observation related to the word, whose sha256 hash

is



e2c2bf1fdea49d1d90f7e17ac158016862f213b42f88b760aee47f697205d83a,

and

that I will disclose the word as part of the reward if

it is

collected.

o -

I pledge to distribute the payment in a timely fashion

if

the

CFJ

finds that CuddleBeam’s payment did, in fact, occur.

[Referee's note: e's referring to a payment made by

Cuddlebeam

in

accordance with the rule "Poetry Duel Challenge Writ",

which is

the

subject of a currently unnassigned CFJ. I would

appreciate

it

if you

guys created pledges with the context included in them.]

Trigon -

I pledge that if I do not win the election for

Rulekeepor, I

will put

myself up as a candidate for this election.

[Referee's note: E's referring to the Fearmongor

election

on 6

Nov

2017]

V.J. Rada -

I pledge to, weekly, if I am Referee, publish a document

called

"Pledges you should withdraw", listing pledges that have

already been

completed or are impossible.

V.J. Rada -

I pledge not to point any fingers

Alexis -

I pledge to transfer 5 shinies to the author of the

first

proposal

that

gives the Rulekeepor authority, under Cleanup Time, to

additionally

correct, at least: missing periods at the end of

sentences,

inconsistently

spelled game terminology, and pronoun use (including

inappropriate

use

of

Spivak pronouns in plural contexts).

Corona -

I also pledge not to use such pretentious words in the

future.

OscarMeyr -

If nominated[Referee's note: for Herald?], I pledge not

to

qualify.



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