Congratulations, this made me chuckle. I’d give you a karma for it, but 
unfortunately I’ve already used my notice this week.

Gaelan

> On Jan 17, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Judge's Arguments for CFJs 3784 and 3785, as well as the whimsically
> quasi-existent CFJ 3785.5
> 
> The first question presented is what the meaning of the word "I" is in a
> proposal.
> 
> The problem here is unconventional is that proposals, in their infinite
> wisdom, generally choose not to use the word "I", or to describe
> their actions in the way Agorans usually do. A player, generally speaking,
> says "I register.", not "I am hereby registered." or "Register me!".
> Proposals, being vested within the near boundless authority to modify
> the gamestate as they see fit, limited only by their power and the strictures
> of the rules, have little need for such niceties as stating that that they
> perform their actions. They simply command that something being done,
> without even a "please" or a "thank you", and expect to be obeyed.
> 
> However, in this case, a proposal (P8277, now enacted), has seen
> fit to use the word "I". We are left to determine what e means. This
> is relatively simple, given the way Agora generally functions. In Agora,
> most acts are speech acts, and furthermore most speech acts are performed
> "by announcement", meaning by a statement that their performer does them.
> This tradition is so strong that any time someone publicly says "I do X",
> people expect X to be an action, performed by announcement. "I" in this
> context refers both to the agent of the action and the sender of the message.
> In the rare instances where the rules state that someone may cause another
> to perform an action, special language is used, such as "I cause Rule N to
> repeal itself." or "Acting on behalf of A, A does X".
> 
> It's reasonable to consider actions performed by proposals in the same light.
> It is as if, each proposal, upon being resolved as enacted, is called by
> the rules to sit upon a grand throne and command changes to the game.
> If a proposal fails to state that who is performing an action, Agorans are
> sufficiently respectful to make the inference that the proposal is. Thus,
> the proposal takes the place that a player would take for a by announcement
> action, even if the relevant requirements are generally more relaxed.
> It follows that a proposal, saying "I", generally refers to emself, since
> e is the agent of eir own actions. G. has pointed out that proposals might
> generally prefer to use the royal "we", as a marker of their vast dignity.
> While I agree that might be preferable, such matters are ultimately for the
> proposal to judge (with the humble guidance of eir author).
> 
> The above is enough to resolve the two CFJs now before me, but would simply
> cause another CFJ to be called asking whether the proposal's action
> is effective, so I will resolve that question in advance as well. I thus
> hypothesize into quasi-existence a CFJ known as CFJ 3785.5, with the statement
> "Proposal 8277 caused coins to be transferred." (Note that I do this purely
> out of whimsy, and in no way expect the Arbitor to track CFJ 3785.5.)
> 
> Proposal 8277 did not, at the time e was adopted, have any coins. In fact,
> the rules do not even allow proposals to possess coins, a notable oversight. 
> As
> determined above, e tried to transfer coins. The question remaining is
> whether e succeeded in transferring the coins. Generally, when a person
> says "I transfer A to B", e means that e transfers some item, A, which e owns,
> to B. Without a doubt, there are cases where A might conceivably transfer
> C's property to B. E might do so as C's agent, or simply through appropriation
> (whether sanctioned by the law or not) of C's property. However, in such
> a case it would be either explicitly made clear as part of eir statement
> or its context. I find this case not to be so clear. Certainly, a proposal
> could transfer coins from anyone to anyone else. E could even conceivably
> state that e was transferring coins into existence. However, if e meant
> that, e would most certainly make it clear. Proposals of good Agoran stock
> are in general too well-mannered to appropriate the goods of others, and
> so I believe the proposal was attempting to be charitable and was simply under
> a misapprehension about the extent of eir own financial resources.
> 
> As a final matter, I note that most of what I've said applies to rules and
> regulations as well as to proposals.
> 
> To review, "I" in a proposal refers to the proposal emself, and Proposal 8277
> failed to transfer coins because e attempted to do so from emself, despite
> having no coin holdings.
> 
> I judge CFJs 3784 and 3785 FALSE. I hypothetically judge CFJ 3785.5 FALSE.

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