Ok, crybaby, here is a long list of how I can kill you from far away, with
out ever "tripping your targeting alarm."

* Sniping = instant death with one shot

* Hooking with the electro hook. = instant death with one hit

* Targeting with the sniper rifle, but then switching to spray the area from
distance with nails or rockets.

* Turning to face you, jumping over your head, turning again, and firing at
your back.

* Hearing you walk around an area, and sneaking up to plant a det pack.

You know what, you must be right. I must be cheating. Onjman and Farhan must
be cheating, too. We're all cheating. And we just won't give you the super
secret badass code.

And you're right, I am being a little bit of a jerk to you. It gets old
having you come on the game and cry to everyone about how there is so much
cheating. What are you, 12 years old?

This is really quite funny, though. I can imagine you, in your basement,
pounding your keyboard and getting all red faced cause someone whooped your
butt again. I know, its so not fair. Just remember, anger leads to hate. We
all can tell how much you must hate me. Feel it flow. Its just too
unfortunate that the force is not with you. Your hate doesn't make you
powerful, it just makes you whiny. That brings us to hate leading to
suffering. Log back on to Jedi Quake and I'll take care of that for you.
lolol

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark BurningHawk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; AGRIP User and Developer discussion list
Subject: Re: [AGRIP-discuss] AQ Flak!

a very nice elementary lecture.  I'm a bit beyond the scop of this
explanation.  it doesn't assuage my knowledge that you are in some way
cheating.  It happens too many times, with too many weapons, without ever
tripping a targeting alarm.  I am NOT a newbyplayer as you assume; your
"tips," are old hat.  Nor am I your "student."  If you weren't such a JERK
you'd see what a jerk you are.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Smart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'AGRIP User and Developer discussion list'" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: [AGRIP-discuss] AQ Flak!


> Hi Mark.
>
> I'm most likely taking you out from long range.
>
> Are you aware of the sniper rifle? When the game says that you were 
> sniped,
> this means that someone took you out with the sniper rifle. Is this
> happening to you? I do this a lot.
>
> When you're using the sniper rifle, use impulse 26 to turn on the audio
> crosshair. With the audio crosshair on, and the sniper rifle selected, you
> can aim and shoot at people that are too far away to generate one of those
> enemy detector tones. Basically, the sniper rifle has unlimited range. The
> drawback is that you must have a direct line of sight. You can't shoot
> through walls. Also, while the sniper rifle will usually kill people with
> one hit, it shoots slowly, so its not a good weapon to use when people are
> shooting at you from close range. Of course, people will hear you sniping 
> at
> them, so be sure to turn on the silencer with impulse 58. I have both of
> those on hotkeys.
>
> One of the things I do on big open maps like 4-level is to stand against a
> wall with it to my back, facing across the map. I'll strafe left and 
> right,
> waiting for the audio crosshair to ping. I'll never even hear the enemy
> targeting tone for the person that I'm about to kill. They're probably on
> the other side of the map. Whenever I hear that ping, though, I shoot.
> Sometimes, they've moved before I can shoot. Most of the time, though,
> they're dead, and they never saw it coming. This is kinda how sniping 
> works
> in real life.
>
> Another long range attack is to be fighting someone, face them, jump with
> the force, which jumps behind them and on the other side of the map. Then,
> I'll spin around 180 degrees, select the nail gun, and strafe back and
> forth. The nail gun won't target at long distances like the sniper rifle
> will, but that isn't important. I know roughly where they are, and I'll 
> just
> spray the area with nails. Plus, I'll be shooting at their back.
>
> I have lots of keys, and they aren't hard to remember. R for sniper rifle,

> b
> for blaster, [ and ] to work the hook, n to fire the stun gun, etc. I just
> map them to things that make sense. I also have keys to perform 90 and 180
> degree turns, look up/down, and other mods that aren't in the standard
> hotkeys. I have also moved the left/right/forward/back keys to the main
> keyboard on i j k and l. It is easier to press keys when you have them all
> on the main keyboard. Playing the game is like typing then. If you use the
> default keymap, then you're constantly having to move your hands back and
> forth, or else hunt around with your left hand. You should relocate your
> keys to things that make sense to you. For example, holding down alt and
> pressing left and right arrows is silly to me. I made u and o strafe, so
> that I can do that with a single key press.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
> BurningHawk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:34 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; AGRIP User and Developer discussion list
> Subject: Re: [AGRIP-discuss] AQ Flak!
>
> This is my final word on the subject.  Whether you can guess who I am or 
> not
> is irrelevant; there are more people than I who suspect you, I'm just one,
> and I can't vouch for my skill level or how it rates against yours; I try
> not to play you when you come on, avoidance being the better policy.
>
> I have picked a cleared area and stood in the middle, turning slowly,
> looking up and down.  You will kill me repeatedly without any sign from my
> detector that you're within striking range.  You kill me without notice,
> even when I should have a clear 180 degree (by dint of turning) of my
> surroundings and a certain amount (with looking up or down) of overhead
> view.  How do you remain invisible to targeting systems if not by 
> cheating?
> You claim to have this amazing array of keystrokes that you can choose 
> from,
> which is simply unmanageable and unwieldy.  Am I supposed to believe you 
> sit
> there and go, "Gee, of the 30+ options I have, I've got enough time to sit
> back and choose this one."  I don't buy it.  And to top it all off, you 
> have
> the obnoxious, self-centered, egotistical, entitled attitude of a cheating
> little boy.  If you've so much to offer the game, let's see your 
> credentials
> as a developer, not just many people you can kill and how good you are.  I
> wouldn't let you teach me even if you DID have something to offer, because
> you attitude makes me want to vomit.  For anyone in the game to even give
> you the time of day and create a list just so you could pretend you're 
> some
> sort of Jedi is just utterly ludicrous.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Smart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'AGRIP User and Developer discussion list'"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:18 AM
> Subject: RE: [AGRIP-discuss] AQ Flak!
>
>
>> Ah ha! I suppose I can guess who you are in the game.
>>
>> Well, good. Here we are on the Agrip list, with the developers of the
>> game,
>> the developers of the mods, and anyone with any skill at Audio Quake. If
>> anyone exists who might understand how such supposed cheating takes 
>> place,
>> then they're here.
>>
>> So, I'd like to know on what basis you think that I cheat. Perhaps you
>> should describe your observations, so that, if there is some super secret
>> hack/hole in the game, the developers can fix it. However, if you're only
>> basis for claiming that I cheat is that I play so much better than you 
>> and
>> the other newbies, then we can safely conclude that you're just a whiny
>> crybaby that can't believe that anyone who has played for two years 
>> longer
>> than him might be a whole lot better.
>>
>> I'd be happy to just let you go on crying and dying, but I want to make
>> sure
>> that this is cleared up for the other players. If they get their skills
>> together, then they can play just as good as me. There is absolutely no
>> cheating in Audio Quake.
>>
>> I'm going to name some player names here. I don't think that it is 
>> against
>> list policy to talk about player names. I think that it is only wrong to
>> talk about who the player is in real life.
>>
>> Onjman can beat me. He doesn't always beat me, and he couldn't beat me at
>> all for a long time, but he does now. Fragdoll can also do really well
>> against me. Farhan does fairly well, depending on the day. The reason 
>> that
>> Onjman plays as well as me is that he has been playing just as long as 
>> me,
>> and plays pretty much every day.
>>
>> Certain in-game people claim that I'm cheating, but they're at the bottom
>> of
>> the frag list. There will be 6 people in the game, and the complainer 
>> will
>> be in last place. If I'm cheating, then so are the other 5 people that 
>> are
>> beating them, huh? I suppose anyone that they can't beat is a cheater. 
>> lol
>
>> I
>> can't believe that people can actually reason like this. People used to
>> say
>> the same stuff about Derek.
>>
>> Whatever, though. You can keep playing, or you can go home. I hope that
>> you'll get better, though, so you'll actually give me a challenge. And 
>> I'm
>> Master Luke Skywalker to you, little crybaby. hahaha Thanks for a good
>> laugh.
>>
>> Master Jedi Bryan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
>> BurningHawk
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:37 AM
>> To: AGRIP User and Developer discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [AGRIP-discuss] AQ Flak!
>>
>> Okay, I"m going to just say this, and everyone's going to hate me that's
>> fine.  I think the idea of a list where Brian sets himself up as a Luke
>> Skywalker wanna be just makes me want to vomit.  I for one DO believe he
>> cheats, but the utter obnoxiousness of this is just over the top.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Guitar Babe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "AGRIP User and Developer discussion list"
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:05 PM
>> Subject: RE: [AGRIP-discuss] AQ Flak!
>>
>>
>>>   Hey Robin, that's cool.  We may have multiple ownership, so go ahead
>>> and join the list and we'll see what the interest is like...
>>>
>>> Have a great day and talk with you soon!...
>>>
>>> Smiles,
>>>
>>> Cara
>>>
>>> At 11:18 PM 5/13/2007 +0200, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Cara,
>>>>Well I'd be very interested in being a list moderator, so please let
>>>>me know what you think! *smile* Yours Robin
>>>>
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>>> > Guitar Babe
>>>> > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:06 PM
>>>> > To: AGRIP User and Developer discussion list
>>>> > Subject: [AGRIP-discuss] AQ Flak!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >                                 Hello All, upon Bryans mention of
>>>> > the idea of game chats where players could mention their names if
>>>> > they wish, I've created a Google group called AQ Flak for this
>>>> > purpose.
>>>> >
>>>> > The group addie is:
>>>> >
>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> >
>>>> > The subscribe addie is:
>>>> >
>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> >
>>>> >    -and for those interested, you should be able to join without
>>>> > needing to be invited.
>>>> >
>>>> > If you've any trouble, please let me know...
>>>> >
>>>> >    This list is not at all meant to substitute for the agrip user /
>>>> > developer list and is merely a chat list for all things AQ.
>>>> >
>>>> > It is informal, and as I currently have no time that I wish to
>>>> > spend moderating it, will be left up to you to self moderate.
>>>> >
>>>> >    Actually, I'm hoping one of you wont mind having ownership of it
>>>> > as well.  So if this interests you, please contact me and we'll go
>>>> > from there...
>>>> >
>>>> >    I felt it was necessary to start this off though, so here ya go!
>>>> > <smile
>>>> >
>>>> >    Matthew, if even mentioning this new list is violating the rule
>>>> > for no player names, then please feel free to delete this post from
>>>> > the agrip archives if you would.  Thanks so much!...
>>>> >
>>>> > Have a wonderful rest of your weekend and talk with y'all on AQ
>>>> > Flak!...
>>>> >
>>>> > Smiles,
>>>> >
>>>> > Cara
>>>> >
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