Hi, Gregoire,
what is the error of your measurements? Perhaps this is masking your data?

sometimes they can be very big!

Are you able to know it?
Hope this helps,
Carme

En/na Gregoire Dubois ha escrit:
Hi Edzer,
I thought about that (the nugget effect) but my variogram (and robust
variograms) did show a short scale structure (with a high nugget
effect).
Considering the possibility you mention, that I actually have a
phenomenon with a pure nugget effect although I see a structure, what do
I have to trust? My experimental variogram showing a structure or the
strong slope of my residuals (either + or -1 depending on the way you
define the residuals) plotted against the observed data telling me that
I actually may not have a structure? The correlation between my observed
and estimate values is poor indeed (0.40) but still..
For what concerns the definition of the residuals, Surfer and Isatis
used here defined the  residuals = estimate - observed. I haven't
checked the other software.

I had a quick look in Isaaks & Srivastava, Deutsch & Journel, Chiles and
Delfiner... all use the same definition as above (i.e. residuals =
estimate - observed).
Many thanks again for your kind  feedback!

Gregoire

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-----Original Message-----
From: Edzer Pebesma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 January 2008 14:13
To: Gregoire Dubois
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and
input data


Gregoire,

If you interpolate with a pure nugget effect, this is what you would expect for cross validation residuals because the predictions are constant, except that usually the residuals are defined as (observed - predicted) which would give the perfect correlation positive (1).

Which software gave you the residuals computed the other way around, or did you compute them yourself?
--
Edzer

Gregoire Dubois wrote:
Dear list,

Having fit a variogram to a dataset (indoor radon measurements) and
applied cross-validations, I noticed the perfect negative correlation (-0.95) between my kriging residuals and my input data.

This means that I am overestimating as much the low values as I am
underestimating the high values, something I am expecting since the mean of the residuals -> 0, a property of kriging. Fine so far.

What I am puzzled about is of the possible reasons of getting such a
strong slope (close to -1) of the plot of my residuals against my input data?

This, I understand, highlights that I am doing a systematic error
somewhere which I want to avoid obviously. I thought I extracted properly the spatially correlated component of my dataset (the variogram of my residuals seems to show a pure nugget effect) but I still can't find any reasonable explanation for the systematic errors.

Any hints? I must have missed something obvious here.

Many thanks for any feedback.

Best regards,

Gregoire


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