From: Ken_Spong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Keith. Sounds like a component for a work value study.
Write it done, log the matters and how they affect you. BTW you actually lost someone to QLD ??? What, with reg fees of $220 plus another $100 startup.... Man, the climate has to be good <gg> Cheers Ken At 10:39 AM 2/06/2003 +1000, you wrote: > From: Radiography WWHS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Ken, Jenny and Ron, >The idea that I was pushing was that I needed another radiographer to >replace the one I just lost to Qld. >I wanted someone that would study "online", due to our work patterns and end >up with the relevant qualifications to fill chief radiography position. The >reason for this is that like many radiographers WE would like to see >radiographers incharge of medical imaging departments. >I am finding like many other rural remote radiographers, the paper work load >is becoming our time consuming waste of time having to explain and document >every thing that we were trained to do and not being paid as a chief >radiographer. > >Keith >Radiography Department >West Wimmera Health Service >Nhill, Vic, 3418 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Ph: 03 5391 4241 >Fax: 03 5391 1599 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 1 June 2003 18:24 > Subject: RE: [AIRNEWS] Post grad management and the shrinking >role of > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Actually, Henry Ford's gift was to find people who knew the answers >& use them > to build his solutions. He is not a good analogy for us because we >are more > like the people he controlled. He gave himself the freedom that we >refuse to > give ourselves. > > Personally I like the idea of anything that develops MRS' into pro's >who will > control & direct the future of Medical Imaging & Therapy as an >independent > profession. Unfortunately being an MBA or an auto-didact doesn't >matter > because that's the one thing we do not, as a rule, do. Making >yourself useful > as someone elses tool isn't the same thing. > > This dinosaur is fine thank you. But like the dinosaurs I am >becoming extinct > because my ecosystem (paradigm) is failing while the parasites >around me are > adapting & feeding off it. > > Cheers > > Ron > > > From: Ken_Spong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Jenny, you are being too kind to Keith. > > > > Henry Ford is cited as the man who knew very little about a lot, >but knew > > where to get the information from. > > > > What has to be realised is that while knowledge is power, power >means > > nothing without the means to use it ( ie. a light is not useful >without the > > switch being turned on). That means is derived through the rigors >of > > academic training and discipline, and personal application. > > > > Which brings me back to the matter of further education to provide >each of > > us with the tools to move forward into role extension. > > > > How are the dinosaurs, today? > > > > Cheers > > > > Ken > > > > At 12:39 PM 30/05/2003 +1000, you wrote: > > > > > From: "Jenny Sim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Hello Keith > > >Oops! Don't think rote learning telephone nos. will get us >anywhere! > > > > > >One of the important elements of self directed learning is >knowing what is > > >it that we need to know, and as you have pointed out , > > >where to find the answer. Having done that, one also needs to be >able to > > >evaluate the information obtained critically to determine > > >if it is useful/applicable and to be able to extract the relevant > > >information and apply it successfully in one's context. Coupled > > >with the ability to self evaluate the learning >outcome(s).......and then > > >moving on from there..............that I think will get us > > >somewhere :) > > > > > >Cheerio > > >Jenny > > > > > > > > > > > >Original Message: > > >----------------- > > >From: Radiography WWHS [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 11:40:32 +1000 > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: RE: [AIRNEWS] Post grad management and the shrinking >role of = > > >theradiographer? > > > > > > > > > From: Radiography WWHS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > >Jenny, > > > > > >Does this apply to memorising all the telephone number in the >book or = > > >should > > >we be asking our selves "knowledge is not important but knowing >where to > > >find the answer and knowing how to us it is". > > > > > >Keith Goode > > >Radiography Department > > >West Wimmera Health Service > > >Nhill, Vic, 3418 > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Ph: 03 5391 4241 > > >Fax: 03 5391 1599 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jenny Sim [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 28 May 2003 21:50 > > > Subject: RE: [AIRNEWS] Post grad management and >the = > > >shrinking > > >role of the radiographer? > > > > > > From: "Jenny Sim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Thank you Ken! > > > > > > As to your comment on "... the more you study, the more >you > > >know....", may =3D > > > I also add that the more one journeys on in life, the >more one > > >realises =3D > > > how much we have yet to know...and hence learn! :) > > > > > > Enjoy your QLD branch meeting! > > > > > > Cheerio > > > Jenny > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >Ken_Spong > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:38 AM > > > To: undisclosed-recipients: > > > Subject: RE: [AIRNEWS] Post grad management and the >shrinking role > > >of > > > the radiographer? > > > > > > > > > From: Ken_Spong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Will do, Jenny. > > > > > > The discussion (if it can be called that) seems to >revolve around > > >those =3D > > > who > > > want to extend their qualifications to better direct >their future > > >path in > > > Radiography, and those with an entrenched opinion that >denigrates > > >such > > > efforts. It could also be that those "knockers" are the > entrenched= > > > > > >=3D > > > brigade > > > who have much to lose when the better equipped are put >up = > > >alongside > > > them. Seems to me to be part of the cycle of life, if I >was to be > > >asked. > > > > > > As for my opinion, the more you study, the more you >know. It is = > > >how > > >you > > > apply that knowledge and the experience that knowledge >leads you > > >through > > > that makes the real difference. So, for those who still >think = > > >that > > > learning more is a waste of time, remember the fate of >the = > > >dinosaur. > > >Out > > > of date, out of time. > > > > > > vive la difference! > > > > > > The QLD branch meeting this June 3 should be a wild >party. Clash = > > >of > > >the > > > titan viewpoints. Future role of the Radiographer up >for > > >discussion. =3D > > > Come > > > one come all. Band aids at the door. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > At 09:01 AM 26/05/2003 +1000, you wrote: > > > > > > > From: "Jenny Sim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >Dear All > > > >With all the ongoing discussions about postgraduate >management > > > >qualifications and shrinking/expanding role of >radiographer, how > > > >about putting your opinions in writing by completing >the CPD = > > >survey > > >on > > > >http://cpdsurveymrs.com :) > > > > > > > >In an earlier AIRNEWS posting, > > > > > > > >Peter Game raised the following: [Re: (AIRNEWS) >definition, > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 7:44 AM; > > > >From: "Ozrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > > > > > > >"....Some contributors have talked about changing our >status in = > > >the > > > >medical community, but I have not yet seen anyone offer >a > > > >considered opinion of what the current status is, where >and why = > > >it > > >is > > > >deficient, or how and why they think it needs to be >improved. > > > >What are you really trying to achieve?....." > > > > > > > > > > > >One of the issues this cpd survey seeks to establish is >to > > >determine from > > > >MRS community the "current status" of our profession >and > > > >where the profession is heading. So, if you can spare >15 minutes, > > >please > > > >go to the website and complete the survey! > > > > > > > >Many Thanks > > > >Jenny > > > > > > > >Jenny Sim > > > >School of Medical Sciences > > > >Division of Medical Radiations > > > >PO Box 71, Bundoora, Vic.,=3D3D20 > > > >Australia 3083 > > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Tel: (03) 9925 7000 > > > >Fax: (03) 9925-7466 +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= This message is being broadcast by AIRNEWS, the Australian Institute of Radiography list Server Send messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For assistance send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Commands should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Opinions expressed on this list are not necessarily those of the moderator, his assistants or those of the A.I.R.
