From: Ian and Louise Smalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here is my take on this Ric,

Assuming the LBD accurately portrays the area of the incident beam, the
best control the dose from primary beam is through careful collimation.
Now for scatter:  Assuming careful alignment of the beam and the patient
to eliminate the presence of unwanted artefact (drip stands, structural
columns etc), the first opportunity for the generation of scatter is
obviously the patient and scatter continues to be generated at just
about every interface through to and including the wall.  Major scatter
is generated by the bed frame of which a fair chunk deflects back toward
the patient.  Placing Pb protection on the waist (on the tube side) of
the patient is an effective way of preventing scatter from exiting the
patient, similarly placing Pb protection on the cassette side will
prevent scatter exiting the patient, but this approach will prevent much
of the bed-generated scatter actually entering the patient.

With respect to scatter generated within the patient, there is not a lot
we can do to protect the internal organs (including ovaries), but as the
testes are external (mine are kept on the fridge) there are options for
the very keen radiographer.

An old boss of mine (sorry about the "old" Glen Burt) was an advocate of
attempting every mobile chest x-ray as a PA examination with the patient
sitting with legs off the side of the bed.  This gave good geometry and
eliminates sources of backscatter. It also sent the residual beam off to
the patient in the next bed, but distances usually made this acceptable.

Ultimately, dose reduction on mobiles is not too different from fixed
equipment.  Maintain your equipment, collimate carefully and get
positioning and exposure right the first time.  Too easy!

The above views on scatter are to be best of my knowledge totally
untested by scientific study.

Which brings me to my "Why do they do that?" question.  Why do
radiographers place Pb protection on the lap of a patient having a knee
examination when the sources of scatter (the knee, the cassette and
table/bucky structures) are ALL underneath the Pb protection?  Surely
rather than teach this nonsense to students we should calculate dose to
the gonads (is it actually a significant dose?), or encourage protection
to be placed under the patient and/or curved between the thighs as
indicated by each view.




Ian Smalley
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Subject: [AIRNEWS] Pb protection for mobile chests

 From: "Eric Yeomans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have always thought using a Pb shield while doing young moblie chest
x-rays, the right thing to do. Recently a comrade stated that there was
actually no radiation protection to the patient by such action and that
we were partaking in a PR exercise by supplying Pb protection for mobile
chest x-rays. Is this correct?

Ric Yeomans
Medical Imaging
Orange Base Hospital
Ph 6393 3569
Fax 6393 3574



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