Hi Jacobus,

If you can look behind the somewhat provocative title, I think Eberhard 
Wolff gives a pretty comprehensive overview of why you should look beyond 
app servers in "Java Application Servers Are Dead":

http://jaxenter.com/java-application-servers-dead-1-111928.html
http://jaxenter.com/java-application-servers-dead-112186.html
http://www.infoq.com/interviews/eberhard-wolff-java-app-servers

A bit too focused on Docker for my taste, but also 
valid: 
https://medium.com/@jstrachan/the-decline-of-java-application-servers-when-using-docker-containers-edbe032e1f30

Hope this helps,
Lutz


Am Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2015 20:51:01 UTC+2 schrieb Jacobus:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'm hoping that someone can help me with advice on motivating why 
> containerless services makes sense. I'm trying to motivate writing a new 
> business service on Akka-HTTP, but other architects stands rock solid on 
> the argument that only services that can be deployed inside Websphere 
> Application Server must be allowed. Now, I realise I can probably make 
> Akka-HTTP run inside a JEE container, but that will be like putting a 
> Ferrari on the back of a truck.
>
> Their primary concerns are mostly around deployment, configuration,  
> monitoring, etc. They also have a sense that things are just safer in 
> Websphere for some kind or reason. They still think in terms of queues and 
> transactions, etc.
>
> If anyone can give me some good business, operational or technical 
> motivators, then I will be very grateful. Also, if you are aware of any 
> stat's, benchmarks, etc. on this, then that will help too. Maybe groups 
> like Gartner have done a bit of a writeup industry moving away from 
> containers?
>
> Anything that can help will be greatly appreciated. I need some solid 
> facts and ideas to back my statements.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Cheers,
> Jacobus
>

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