On 8/17/01 11:31 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> 
>> On 8/17/01 11:04 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/16/01 12:04 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The dependencies are not detected for you. Geir's little dep engine
>>>>> handles
>>>>>> this nicely. I started with what I thought I needed for the TDK and
>>>>> assumed
>>>>>> the dependencies would be detected but they're not. Not a big deal as I
>>>>> only
>>>>>> have to do this once, but as projects changed it would be nice for these
>>>>> to
>>>>>> be detected so that you don't have to edit your profile when all the
>>>>>> projects change their definitions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where can I find Geir's little dep engine?  Is it something that could be
>>>>> called by gen.java?
>>>> 
>>>> I think he put it in the commons ... hmmm it's not there so but it is in
>>>> the
>>>> commons sandbox along inside jjar. But the dep engine will go into the
>>>> commons utils, that's the plan anyway.
>>> 
>>> Sure, if it has a general use.
>>> 
>>>>> In prior discussions with Geir, I got the impression that this was
>>>>> intertwined with the downloading and recursion, but if I could have a
>>>>> shallow set of dependencies provided, that would be great!
>>>> 
>>>> I used the little dep engine for the java version and it works great.
>>> 
>>> This is starting to sound like duplication of what already exists in the
>>> jjar 'stuff', and is leading to a duplication - would it be possible to
>>> simply use jjar to get the dependencies?   That way, there would only
>>> one set of dependency descriptors that could be used both for gumping as
>>> well as for general project build and deployment use.
>> 
>> Gump has been around a lot longer than jjar and has comprehensive dependency
>> info that can easily be used for a lot more projects. I don't think using
>> jjar to get the dependencies is the way to go. Alexandria and Gump, I feel,
>> are more appropriate places for this information and that's what I'm going
>> to continue with this weekend. I honestly feel that jjar should have been
>> based on the descriptors long present in Gump.
> 
> I thought you just redid them?

I did originally when I did the first version of maven, but as they changed
so much all the time I started working with the descriptors in gump and
that's turned out to be the better route. Sam keeps them up-to-date and now
I try to do the same.

I gave up on the idea of redoing them and am working with what sam started.

>> 
>> I think jjar can easily use what's in Gump. They are already cleaned up and
>> there will be code for parsing these XML descriptors into Java objects and
>> this code can be reused in many building related tools. Alexandria/Gump has
>> always been slated to be the storehouse for this information.
>> 
>> 
>>> geir
>> 
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>> jvz.
>> 
>> Jason van Zyl
>> 
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