On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 09:53, Sam Ruby wrote: > Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > >> That's the one part that I don't want to > >> compromise on. Bootstrapping maven and then using that version of maven > >> during the build process is OK with me. > > > > I don't think that is possible and I really don't think that is > > reasonable to expect. > > I will simply observe that this is both possible and reasonable to expect > for Ant, Xerces, and Xalan. Obviously a failure in any one of these > projects causes essentially a failed Gump run. In practice, this occurs > less than once a month. Much less.
That may be the case, but it's not what you've been doing because it is convenient and as you point out reasonable to assume Xerces, Xalan and Ant are stable. > > I assumed that when you agreed to let me install > > maven on the gump machine that this was understood. > > Two things are going on here. One is that I made available a resource that > was provided to me as you indicated that it would help you in the > development of a Jakarta project. That would have occurred regardless of > the development activities that I am pursuing. > > Secondly, even if this can not be achieved all in one step, I had hoped > that ultimately we would work towards the same goals. Definitely, I just can't do this in one fell swoop and I just know given the wide set of tools that Maven uses that success from HEAD is a lot less likely. If it a requirement then I fear nothing but problems. I think it's clearly evident that I'm trying. I've been correcting Gump descriptors all night in an attempt to get this to work and I'm glad the bootstrap requirement isn't being mandated because I definitely think this can work. > > I don't believe the > > bootstrapping of maven would work because it would produce an unstable > > version of Maven, a version that I have absolutely no control over. > > Again, before Gump, projects like Ant were largely unstable and caused > breaking changes to the people that depended on them. Clearly Gump was > only one factor in this evolution, but I don't believe that there is anyone > here who would deny that the rapid and precise feedback that Gump provides > greatly accelerated this progress. > > This is NOT merely a statement about daily builds. The quality and > compatibility of releases has greatly improved as a result of this process. > > - Sam Ruby > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tambora.zenplex.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
