for sure you are awake and smelling the coffee.however with the healthcare its damed if you do and damed if you don't.on the one hand it serves the meds and insurers if it flops on the other hand it puts another straw on the camals back of complete financial colapse if it goes through.go know.have you ever contemplated why drugs are not legal as in holland.there must be millions of enforcers employed in jailing and arresting and so on and so forth.make drug addiction a social problem and not a criminal problem and you have literally millions of unimployed former law officers with weapons and very pissed off.they have no one to arrest additionally gang banging would decrease as its greatly indebted to the drug culture,sorry this is so off topic.i stand to be corrected on my view.
--- On Mon, 11/30/09, George Graves <[email protected]> wrote: From: George Graves <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [alfa] Re: Government-sponsored vandalism To: "Richard C. Wagner" <[email protected]> Cc: "<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 11:45 AM BTW, the "carbon footprint" of a new vehicle is far greater than the carbon footprint of an old one and with modern cars, it takes about 60,000 miles of driving that "new" car before it zeros out. The whole reason for these various schemes to get older, ostensibly more polluting vehicles off of the road is to force you to buy a new one. This legislation was strongly lobbied for by the auto industry Which has thrown billions at this all over the country. So, like everything else in government today, it's special interest legislation, bought and paid for. And if you think that the medical and insurance lobbies are gonna let some kind of universal government-funded healthcare get adopted in this country, then you have another 'think' coming. Oh, yes, and this "global Warming" fiasco has severely shaken my belief in the integrity of the scientific community. George Graves '86 GTV-6 3.0 'S' On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Richard C. Wagner wrote: > Will wrote: > >> Was anyone else as sickened by this as I was? > > Yes. But then, I've been sickened every day for the past 20 years, so it's become a normal part of waking up. > > >> You use stuff until it needs to be rebuilt, and you keep using it until >> it can't be rebuilt anymore. This is called Thrift, which me and my kind >> were brought up to believe was even closer to godliness than cleanliness >> was. > > Amen, brother. My parents grew up on the farm, during the depression, so it's a mantra I also repeat every day. The problem is that the country's economy is now based on continuous consumption of products that were once durable, but are now considered by their manufacturers to be disposable. > > >> What in God's name is >> accomplished by destroying a perfectly useful machine of any kind? >> Deliberately rendering it useless? I'm sorry. y'all, but this is dead >> against the religion I was raised up in > > Think about it for a minute. If all of these vehicles were put onto the used car market, through auction or direct resale, the market would have become flooded and used car prices would have dropped. So whose idea was this? Four letters: NADA (National Automobile Dealers Association). Not the Government's, not the politicians', but the people who sell cars. Money talks. Citizens walk. > > > Rich Wagner > Montrose, CO, USA > '82 GTV6 -- > to be removed from alfa, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi > or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected] -- to be removed from alfa, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected] -- to be removed from alfa, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected]
