I think that Alfa's problems with the US market, when they left, was one of simply having no products. The American car line had shrunk to essentially, two models: the Spider and the 164. The Spider was, by that time, so old and getting so expensive, that it was difficult for even the most dyed-in-the-wool Alfisti to justify buying another. Essentially, it was the same car that Alfa had been selling for close- on to 30 years. Then there was the Miata. Here was a car very much like the classic sports roadster that the Giulietta spider had been. It was thoroughly modern, reliable and low-maintenance, with decent performance, for thousands less. Then there was the 164. A car with a limited market appeal to begin with, by 1994 everyone who wanted one had already bought one. They decided not to market the 145 here, or the 155, both of which would have sold ENOUGH units to keep the brand afloat here until the new Spider, the New GTV6, and the gorgeous 156 arrived. I suspect that the 156 would have sold like hotcakes - on looks alone (especially the station wagon)! The new Spider and GTV coupe would have rejuvenated Alfa's sporting image, especially with the re-designed 24-valve version of the the V-6. Pulling out of the US market on the very eve of introducing an entirely new lineup of some pretty exciting models was, in my opinion, one of the stupidest moves in car marketing history. Couldn't ANYBODY at Fiat see that in 1965, Alfa had nothing to sell here? Or that in just a year, that problem would have been completely resolved? It's a wonder, sometimes, that any large corporation survives. They do such stupid things. And they do them over and over again. Fiat is about to screw-up the Alfa brand again, maybe forever, by perhaps trying to turn Chrysler platforms into Alfa Romeos. It won't work. But they are so out of touch, apparently, that they can't see that.

George Graves
'86 GTV-6 3.0 'S'

On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Bradley Artigue wrote:

Also, Alfa was going front wheel drive before FIAT's purchase. The 164 was designed prior to the acquisition of FIAT. Lets not forget the Sud was front
wheel drive also.

The 164 platform was jointly designed and used by Alfa (164), FIAT (Thema/Chroma I think), and Saab (9000). Pre-acquisition. Alfa Romeo is a case study in bad decision making and government intrusion (like many car companies, but particularly those Italian ones). We can lament the death of what was Alfa Romeo as an indepenent marque, or celebrate that it was purchased and kept alive. One thing is certain; FIAT purchasing Alfa Romeo saved the brand. It kept the brand Italian. How many of you would drive an Alfa Romeo made by TATA Manufacturing of India? I almost vomited writing that sentence. Alfa and FIAT did horrible jobs of meeting the demands of the USA market. From my perspective I was always amazed at how they thought it was reasonable to ask people to buy expensive cars from dealerships that were a step above a trailer park. --
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