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[email protected], [email protected] Phone 540-347-1305 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: alfa-digest V10 #2225 alfa-digest Monday, March 15 2010 Volume 10 : Number 2225 Forum for Discussion of Alfa Romeos, etc. Richard Welty <[email protected]> Digest Coordinator Contents: Pandion NO, was Re: [alfa] pandion yes Re: [alfa] Bertone GTV 2000 headlight grommets Re: [alfa] thin shims re: [alfa] Bertone GTV 2000 headlight grommets Re: [alfa] thin shims [alfa] Styrofoam in the foot wells GTV 2000 [alfa] Re: GTV headlight grommets [alfa] Valve Shim Minimum Thickness Re: [alfa] pandion yes Alfa Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/alfa/ Send submissions to [email protected] Send administrative requests to [email protected] To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to alfa-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:39:52 -0800 (PST) From: Russell Neely <[email protected]> Subject: Pandion NO, was Re: [alfa] pandion yes I had to do a Google search on Pandion, then add Alfa to find this. http://jalopnik.com/5473801/alfa-romeo-pandion-concept-like-a-supermodel -with - -man-hands Car is butt ugly, like so many concept cars. Good thing I have enough Alfas aound here to last me the rest of my life. Ciao, Russ ________________________________ From: jeff clark <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 4:48:36 PM Subject: [alfa] pandion yes Reminds me a little of a KTM. So, ok, if they painted it all fugly orange, I might at least know why I hate it so. <shudder> - -- jeff clark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:45:41 +0100 (CET) From: "Wille R." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [alfa] Bertone GTV 2000 headlight grommets Try this site: http://highwoodalfa.com/be4fc886-fd76-406e-8049-a9d2465525e1-9.html and scroll down to parts #11 and on. Maybe something there or at the Seals section. Cordially Wille R. www.duettoregister.com >[email protected] >Subject: [alfa] Bertone GTV 2000 headlight grommets > >Gentle Alfisti Cordiali saluti Wille R. ************************ www.veloce.se www.duettoregister.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:49:43 +0100 (CET) From: "Wille R." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [alfa] thin shims They came with a minimum at 1.500mm from factory. You may regrind them using a fine sand paper but it's not the best way. If you try cut the top of the valve, don't do it. there is sodium inside. Cordially Wille R. www.duettoregister.com >Jeff Greenfield <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [alfa] thin shims Cordiali saluti Wille R. ************************ www.veloce.se www.duettoregister.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:08:15 -0600 From: Jeff Matson <[email protected]> Subject: re: [alfa] Bertone GTV 2000 headlight grommets modelle wrote: >>The most specialized flubber part on a 74 GTV is the two-piece grommet that insulates the sealed-beam >>wires through the headlight bucket....Has anyone ever replaced this part? I did this a few years ago, I think as a result of one of my wires shorting out or something. I believe that I replaced the grommet with a somewhat common sealed electrical box connector from McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com/#cord-grips/=67a93o (go to this page, then click on "cord grips", and then on "multicord"). There are a couple of varieties: ones with a rubber insert having multiple holes through which you pass the various wires and the nut compresses the insert to seal around the wires, and then a similar sort with heat shrink extensions that might be even better. I think I used the former type, but I don't drive my GTV in foul weather so sealing isn't critical. Neither looks particularly original, but they do the job. I think I used ones to fit standard 1/2" electrical conduit knockouts, but it has been a while so you ought to measure the holes to check before buying. I may have gotten a small rubber washer to put around the connection to the bucket to help seal that interface, too. Jeff Matson Wichita KS '74 GTV 2000 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:40:11 -0700 From: Greg Hermann <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [alfa] thin shims Wille R. wrote: > They came with a minimum at 1.500mm from factory. You may regrind them using a > fine sand paper but it's not the best way. If you try cut the top of the valve, > don't do it. there is sodium inside. > > 1. Only the exhaust valve stems are hollow and contain metallic sodium. 2. If you had ever seen a drawing of a sodium filled valve, you would know that the hollow part of the stem (and the sodium) does not extend into the top third of the length of the valve stem--so this is a non-issue for this operation. There ARE two problems with 'tipping' the upper end of the valve stems: First--the case is much harder than the interior of the stem--if you remove too much material, and go through the case hardness, the tip of the stem may tend to 'mushroom', and create a LOT of pretty obvious problems. Second--the surface of the end of the valve stem must be absolutely SQUARE to the length of the stem when the job is complete. So--this operation is NOT something which ought to be attempted with any sort of hand tool !! Being the contrary sort--I once took a sodium filled exhaust valve (taken from a Chrysler 413 truck engine), put it in a vise, and cut the stem in two using a 9" angle grinder. Wore a leather welding jacket and gloves, and a face shield, 'just in case'. "pfffftt" (lower case intended) was all that happened, as the sodium inside the valve turned into sort of a yellowish colored lump. I'm still here more than a couple of decades later. Greg ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:53:32 -0800 From: robert paulson <[email protected]> Subject: [alfa] Styrofoam in the foot wells GTV 2000 Greetings, My '72 GTV appears to have factory equipped wedges of molded styrofoam in the passenger side foot well. I state this because the wedge perfectly fills an indentation in the foot well and that I don't believe the car has been every restored. Do others have a wedge of foam in their car's foot wells? What does one do when a replacement wedge is needed? Thanks, Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:30:07 +0000 (UTC) From: [email protected] Subject: [alfa] Re: GTV headlight grommets Gentle Alfisti, Thanks for the help, here's what I was looking for. GT Junior 1300 GTA 1600 1750 Headlight Grommet Boot : eBay Motors (item 200391743565 end time Apr-04-10 11:21:33 PDT) modelle in somers point 115.01, 115.02 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:02:46 -0700 From: "Richard C. Wagner" <[email protected]> Subject: [alfa] Valve Shim Minimum Thickness Hi Al: > On the intake side the shims are on the thin side > with one shim calculated to be around 0.042", less > than what's available. It sounds like you've checked the valve lashes with the head on the bench, or at least without the normal loads on it. Torque it down and check the lashes again. I'll guarantee you they'll be different, and with some luck, this may no longer be an issue for you. Rich Wagner Montrose, CO, USA '82 GTV6 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:10:16 -0700 (PDT) From: ira kaufman <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [alfa] pandion yes ok guys,if we all thought of the same thing as beautiful it would be a mighty boring world. - --- On Fri, 3/12/10, jeff clark <[email protected]> wrote: From: jeff clark <[email protected]> Subject: [alfa] pandion yes To: [email protected] Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 5:48 PM >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:44:45 -0800 (PST) >From: ira kaufman <[email protected]> >Subject: [alfa] pandion yes > >just saw the pics of the pandion.yes yes yes.dats wat im sayin. Yikes! Ahhhh. Well. Looks much like what designers have been dooing in the Motorcycle World. for a few years now. Reminds me a little of a KTM. So, ok, if they painted it all fugly orange, I might at least know why I hate it so. <shudder> - -- jeff clark 82 Spider Veloce 99 BMW R1100S [email protected] - -- to be removed from alfa, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected] ------------------------------ End of alfa-digest V10 #2225 **************************** -- to be removed from alfa, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected]

