The mark is typically a round stamp that can be seen just above the bead.
Occasionally the mark is actually molded in, but the manufacturers I have
worked with dont do that because when the tire is used, this can change
slightly. It is not a perfect system, but helps decrease the amount of
weight needed. I am not sure what numbers you are looking for, unless you
mean the alignment numbers the manufacturer supplies or the tech surmises
from a combination of manufacturer numbers and questions about vehicle use.



Ben



From: Alan Lambert [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:50 PM
To: 'Brian Shorey'; 'AlfaCyberSite'; Ben Ament
Cc: 'AD'
Subject: RE: [alfa] Balancing tires on the car + alignment




These are informative comments, but;

1] Where are these tire marks and what do they look like.

2] What, (and where can they be found), are the "numbers to use? On all
machines?

Thanks, and

Best regards,

         Alan Lambert

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--- En date de : Sam 22.1.11, Ben Ament <[email protected]> a icrit :


De: Ben Ament <[email protected]>
Objet: RE: [alfa] Balancing tires on the car + alignment
@: "'Brian Shorey'" <[email protected]>, "'AlfaCyberSite'"
<[email protected]>
Cc: "'AD'" <[email protected]>
Date: Samedi 22 janvier 2011, 21h17

Ditto! bs is smack on. Further, what many tire installers miss is that most
modern tires have a mark where the tire should be mounted in relation to the
valve stem. Little weight is typically needed, if this mark is heeded.

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Brian Shorey
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 1:42 PM
To: AlfaCyberSite
Cc: AD
Subject: Re: [alfa] Balancing tires on the car + alignment

Ok, I've got to ask - why the aversion to a computer aided alignment?  The
computer doesn't insist on anything other than the numbers the tech punches
in.  I bring my alfas to a shop near by, I tell them what numbers to use,
and it comes out perfect..

As for tire balancing, there is another shop nearby that has a machine that
can detect the balance of the tire and wheel individually, then have the
tech rotate the tire on the wheel.  The result is optimal balance with
minimal added weights.

I know of a shop with an on the hub balancer, but nothing comes close to the
more modern machine.

The above is what I'd be looking for.

bs

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On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:31 PM, AlfaCyberSite <[email protected]> wrote:

> The tire/balancing/alignment shop I (long ago) had tires balanced on
> the car
is no longer in business. The tires were first balanced on the machine,
installed, and as I recall the fellow (always the same one) attached the
'unit' to the center hub - keeping in mind there once was a time when most
all cars had hubcaps and when removed one had access to the hub. The fellow
would stare at the machine, but always put his left hand on the fender. It
took me awhile to figure out that his hand was the final decision maker.
>
> The alignment is also very important to me in that I need a shop which
> does
not use computer balancing - meaning I don't necessarily want what the
computer insists on. Also, the fellow doing the balancing needs to have an
educated seat for when he takes the car out for a run. Good ones will often
come back and make final adjustments, based on that seat.
>
> So what I'm really looking for is a shop who has a fellow with an
> educated
hand, and another with an educated bottom - and both will take the time to
do the job right.
>
> Biba
> Irwindale, CA USA
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