I did not check the fuel pressure on Sat.  However about a year ago I went
thru the entire fuel system trying to discover why the car wouldn't start
(faulty microswitch in the SPICA pump to the fuel cut off solenoid - it was
always ON) and I did check the fuel pressure.   It was around 17-18 psi.

Bruce

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Brian Shorey <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> What is the actual fuel pressure?
>
> bs
>
> Sent from my iPad 4
>
> On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Bruce Giller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > On Saturday I did a thorough investigation of the tank's plumbing.  The
> > fuel pressure light would wink out in about 1-2 seconds and the pump
> > sounded normal (not straining).  I made sure that the fuel return
> plumbing
> > in the tank was clean by blowing air thru it and hearing bubbly noises
> from
> > inside tank (the tank was 1/2 full and the end of the return line was
> below
> > surface of the fuel).  The two vapor recovery connections on the tank
> were
> > clear (blew thru them), and the vapor container's  three connections were
> > clear.  I double checked the vapor line inlet valve in that it didn't
> > release pressure but only allowed air in.  The vapor recovery line was
> > clear all the way to the engine - little volume goes thru this line
> that's
> > for sure.  And I checked the exhaust system for leaks and there are none
> > nearby the tank that would cause the tank to heat up.
> >
> > I've still no idea just what is going here with this tank.
> >
> > As to the different styles of FI pumps that Alfa put on SPICA cars, Wes
> I.
> > has a great write up here:
> > http://www.wesingram.com/SPICA_Fuel_Supply_Diagnostic_Guide_Nov_2004.pdf.
> > My '73 GTV has the correct 2-port (one inlet, one outlet) FI pump.  The
> > newer models had the 3 ports.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:53 AM, John Palumbo <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I just thought of something else. If your pump only has one port exiting
> >> the top of the pump, its quite possible you have an entirely wrong pump
> for
> >> that particular car! I mean the newer Bosch pumps for the electronic
> >> injection cars have only one port exiting the top of the pump. So maybe
> >> someone swapped-out one these for the old styled original pump that was
> on
> >> the car, thinking that it would be more reliable.
> >>
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> >>
> >> Bruce Giller <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> John,
> >>>
> >>> My FI fuel pump is the new style with only two ports so there's no way
> the
> >>> gas can back into the tank from it.
> >>>
> >>> Bruce
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:18 AM, John Palumbo <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Just a quick thought, I would tend to think it would have something to
> >> do
> >>>> with the fuel delivery from the fuel pump. The fuel it would seem is
> >>>> getting pumped back into the tank, instead of to the pump where it
> >> belongs,
> >>>> hense you noticed it took longer for the pressure light to go out.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I can recall, the older pumps had three ports on them, one to the
> >> SPICA
> >>>> pump, one as a return to the tank, and I think the third was for some
> >>>> emmissions thing, I'm not sure. I know the the newer pumps had only
> two
> >>>> ports.
> >>>>
> >>>> So maybe if you had a spare pump, you could try installing it and see
> if
> >>>> it does the same thing. Perhaps there is a sort of check valve system,
> >>>> similiar to that of a diode thats gone bad, it being that alows the
> >> fuel to
> >>>> flow in only one direction, to the SPICA pump. The other thought would
> >> be
> >>>> to run it with the fuel cap off. But there should be no logical reason
> >> why
> >>>> the tank should be over pressurizing.
> >>>>
> >>>> John
> >>>>
> >>>> T-Mobile, America's First Nationwide 4G Network
> >>>> Sent by Samsung Mobile
> >>>>
> >>>> Bruce Giller <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yesterday we (David Tallerico and I) attended a Seat Time session at
> >>>> Summit
> >>>>> Point track after a too-long hiatus.  The weather temp wasn't hot but
> >>>>> pretty warm - mid to upper 80's or so.  It is 1.5 hour drive from my
> >> house
> >>>>> there and we stopped in Charles Town for gas. at around 7:50 am.  At
> >> the
> >>>>> station the car would not restart and we discovered that it was
> getting
> >>>> any
> >>>>> gas for the plugs were dry.  The fuel pressure light went out but it
> >> took
> >>>>> longer than usual for it to go out; usually after running for a bit,
> it
> >>>>> only takes 1 second for it to wink out.  I removed the return hose
> from
> >>>> the
> >>>>> SPICA pump and gas was pumped out with the fuel pump on.  We 'fixed'
> >> the
> >>>>> non-starting problem with starter fluid sprayed down the throats.
>  Off
> >> to
> >>>>> the track!
> >>>>> .....................
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