On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:31:37 -0400, Roger Merchberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> For larger processes with many steps / commands... say 20, issue each step
> a 5% complete status, and update the bar at each step...

Ah yes..."There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics" :-)

For most LFS packages, there are only 3-4 steps: configure, make, make check, 
make install

> If it was a long process with only a few steps, if the application had 
> access to the process logging, one could tee & grep the logs & when
> certain 
> "milestones" were reached one could update the progress bar.

Unfortunately, this is unlikely to be accurate either - in it's most simple 
implementation, things like autoconf/automake will reach 50% very quickly, then 
take a disproportionate amount of time to hit 75% due to the relatively long 
time their test suites take and quickly hit 100% as the install target is 
pretty minimal.  Processing log files would get around this - assuming you 
could watch for particular make targets or tests being run.  However, this 
requires an incredible amount of effort, and such log-progress mappings would 
need to be reviewed/updated on each new upstream release of the package that 
makes it into the book.  Unless, of course, I'm missing something.

> Again, this is just academic blathering... ;-)

As is this :-)

> [1] Please note: if I had a boss that told me that, I'd still ask him if it 
> was worth that much work for what little (any?) benefit...

Yep, quite often all that is required is to keep on asking him "what is it you 
want to achieve"?  In this case, what I would want is something that can tell 
me two things: 1) Is the package build process still running/has it hung 
somewhere and 2) How long is it likely to take to build/finish building.

1) jhalfs already produces log files, so just tailing these is sufficient for 
my needs.  If it looks like it's hung, I just use 'ps' to confirm.  I'm not 
sure jhalfs needs to do anything more for this case.

2) Maybe jhalfs could display a) SBU time b) how many SBUs the current package 
is estimated to take (and therefore also the estimated time by doing the simple 
a*b calculation) and c) how long the package has taken to build so far.  If 
updating c) is just as expensive as updating the current progress bar, simply 
outputting the time the package build started would be sufficient and I could 
do the rough math myself.

Regards,

Matt

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