Hi :) The problem is that people are comparing installing Ubuntu against using a system that is already installed for them.
A pre-installed systems means you don't have to do anything to install it. Of course that is easier than installing it yourself! I'm not quite sure about the quality issue. 1. Bug-reports: Is there anywhere you can look up how many bug-reports have been filed against non-unix-based systems? Do any Windows users know how to post bug-reports against their system? Is it positively encouraged and made easy to post them? How many of the 100K are duplicates or likely to be fixed by fixing the same bit of code? Do all the 100K affect Ubuntu or are some against other distros? 2. Works anywhere: Errr, everywhere i have installed Ubuntu it works well. I even have a full install on a usb-stick (not a LiveUsb so it doesn't do hardware checking so thoroughly) that seems to work in every machine (not tried it on a Win8 on yet) 3. Malware: Ubuntu never suffers from this. Mac seems to get 1 or 2 every couple of years. Android and Blackberry seem fairly immune too. Also what do we consider as competitors, as rivals? Mac, Android, Blackberry, Bsd and other unix-based OSes seem to operate as fair competition. Each has a niche. Each, to some extent, operates in co-operative competition for/against each other. Regards from Tom :) >________________________________ > From: A. Denton <> >Sent: Sunday, 26 May 2013, 2:40 > > >The bugs name should be altered. I think Microsoft is just one player in >this game. Have you realized some things changed since the 90's? Just >imagine... Oracle took over Sun, Apple released OS 10 (X) and BSD is a >powerful and usable OS . :-] > >Seriously guys I think Microsoft is not the biggest problem we have and >neither is Apple or some other company. The biggest problem right now is >'us'. I think we have a problem with Linux, with quality and with the >direction in which things are going. Yes, I say we have a problem with >quality and 100k+ bugs here. We have a problem with users still making a >valid point in saying Ubuntu is to hard to install and to yet not usable >in the same way and everywhere like the systems of our competitors. > >All that is not Microsoft's fault. And even a major market share for a >dinosaur like them is not a problem in the first place. However it >matters whether our quality is better or not. Bill Gates was wrong when >he replied to Jobs in the 80's that it doesn't matter. It does matter – >you can see it yourself! > > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu 4 dz, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 Title: Microsoft has a majority market share Status in Club Distro: Confirmed Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: New Status in dylan.NET.Reflection: Invalid Status in dylan.NET: Invalid Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid Status in LibreOffice: In Progress Status in The Linux Kernel: New Status in The Linux Mint Distribution: In Progress Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress Status in Neobot: New Status in Novabot: New Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress Status in Tabuntu: Invalid Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid Status in Tv-Player: Invalid Status in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team Meta Project: In Progress Status in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in Arch Linux: Confirmed Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed Status in openSUSE: In Progress Status in Tilix Linux: New Bug description: Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace. This is a bug which Ubuntu and other projects are meant to fix. As the philosophy of the Ubuntu Project states, "Our work is driven by a belief that software should be free and accessible to all." "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be. Free software gives everyone the freedom to use it however they want and share with whoever they like. This freedom has huge benefits. At one end of the spectrum it enables the Ubuntu community to grow and share its collective experience and expertise to continually improve all things Ubuntu. At the other, we are able to give access to essential software for those who couldn’t otherwise afford it – an advantage that’s keenly felt by individuals and organisations all over the world." * http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy Non-free software leaves users at the mercy of the software owner and concentrates control over the technology which powers our society into the hands of a few. Additionally, proprietary software stifles innovation, maintains artificial scarcities, and enables malicious anti-features such as DRM, surveillance, and other monopolistic practices. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry. Steps to repeat: 1. Visit a local PC store. 2. Attempt to buy a machine without any proprietary software. What happens: Almost always, a majority of PCs for sale have Microsoft Windows pre- installed. In the rare cases that they come with a GNU/Linux operating system or no operating system at all, the drivers and BIOS may be proprietary. What should happen: A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software. * http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html * http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines * http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscriptions _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~algeriatul Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~algeriatul More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

