Of course one can’t rely on one source so that’s what I mean when I say think out side the “Poor Blind Me” square, Google is your friend as the Blind messiah says.
> On 27 Jun 2018, at 12:42 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh yeah Neal's podcasts do help. Infact were I to get an H6 I'd use that > podcast to get orianted. True if someone sighted tells you how many times to > press a button or something like that to do something it helps too. So yeah > you can use stuff. > > > On 6/26/2018 6:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> I still found the Zoom H6 useful but that may well be because I knew what >> the button layout was thanks to Neal's review and this underlines my point >> again. >> Take some time out to actually push or move the buttons, controls, levers >> and see what if anything might happen. >> Read reviews and see if the reviewer may actually mention the button layout >> of whatever the device is in the review which is often the case. >> And at the very worst, do some planning so that if you're able to get the >> use of a pair of eyes you can have them explain the basic layout of whatever >> it is you're trying to use, take notes from there and you'll be surprised at >> what you can do from that point 99% of the time. >> Remember the hard drive audio recorder I mentioned some time ago on list? >> Well that unit did take a lot of learning I admit and I acknowledge that if >> it hadn't been for the feedback I got over so many weeks from a sighted >> person and the notes I took then I would have been stuck. >> Now I've memorised much of the functionality of the recorder and - if ever >> I'm not quite sure of a function - then I can always look it up. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Aidan >> Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2018 7:22 AM >> To: all-audio@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Oh wow! Zoom could be verry well on the way to >> making the F recorders accessible 1 day maybe. >> >> I agree though, just one thing, >> zoom manuals are for the most part not very useful when you want to know >> sertin button layout or combinations. That could make things difficult when >> you want to no how to open the settings for h1n for example, as it don't >> state wich button to press when powering on. >> I must say though however, that the zoom handy rec app for ios work quite >> well. >> I plan on getting the zoom IQ7, wich should give me the same audio quality >> as the H4N, and then not to worry about learning usibility for the moment, >> but I will sometime have to take the plunch though. >> On another note, if you want to use the same capchuals as the zoom h6, and >> you don't want the h6 or to deal with difficulty, you can also get the zoom >> u44, wich is compatible with those captuals and you will have very quiet >> PreAmps, in an more accessible way as the u44 don't have menus. >> >> >> On 26/06/2018, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I understand. I personally want to try and be more that guy. If only >>> cause I want movie set quality audio. So note to self if ya want movie >>> set quality ya must get an F8N and deal with what ever doesn't beap or >>> talk. For instance. The folder structure. How hard is that to deal with? >>> Remember there's 10 folders then more sub folders for each recording >>> you make. now the multyfile thing that's no prob. That's obvious and >>> goes without Neal having said it. In multi mode it's like when you >>> extract something with DVDAE speaker by speaker. In this case it's 1 >>> file per XLR. Makes sence. I'm just saying I guess I'd have to try 1 >>> before buying. Lone someone's recorder. Just to see. Cause I know I >>> have gotten disorianted without voice or music or beeps. Also I use >>> the accessibility word cause like I said lots of blind people I've >>> been around probabally wouldn't dare try. Not sympally recording. That >>> is just to obvious. But the menu thing. They may not wana braille down >>> and have to have a cheet sheet every time they wana change something. >>> I'll own up when younger and more imiture I was that guy. But now I >>> want the pro quality so bad that I say self grow up and suck it. >>> >>> >>> On 6/26/2018 8:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> To put my attitude another way. >>>> I’ve ben using cassette recorders for 44 years and those beasts had >>>> no menus, I had to remember to press record and play or whatever >>>> buttons I needed for whatever functions I required so why not apply >>>> that simple principle to modern-day equipment? >>>> Yeah sure you get off to a shaky start sometimes but being patient >>>> and being prepared to sometimes think outside the “Poor Blind Me” >>>> square? Well you’d be surprised what you can come up with. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 26 Jun 2018, at 9:58 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ah yeah. Well in this instance I mean if they continue it could >>>>> verry well be 1 day like the first Olympus recorders. Yes these from >>>>> what I've heard from you dain and from Neal demoing them they seem >>>>> to be usable. I say seem to because I've not experienced 1 myself. >>>>> Remember I get distracted when the recorder doesn't beap. I've shut >>>>> the beeper off on my >>>>> LS-14 at times when I use pre record to not get the beep in the >>>>> recordings. Meh I guess I do fine if I record and stop. but pausing >>>>> is where I get disorianted. But again you're correct Dain. If you >>>>> take the time you can get buy. Like I've also said before maybe I'm >>>>> just too use to blind devices as it were like the Plextalks. But >>>>> also most blind people I've been around. Sure there's the select few >>>>> that will dare try using something with no sounds what so ever, but >>>>> it's a verry select few. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6/26/2018 5:03 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>> I think we need to know the difference between accessible and >>>>>> useable and - for the most part - Zoom recording equipment has >>>>>> certainly been very useable and - by the sounds of it - continues to be >>>>>> so. >>>>>> Really it comes back to the old story, if you can be bothered to >>>>>> sit down with the particular piece of equipment you have and take 5 >>>>>> minutes to read the manual and note down various aspects or explore >>>>>> the unit then you’ve won 8% of battles in most cases. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 26 Jun 2018, at 1:14 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah The subject line says it almost all. I was on the page Dain >>>>>>> sent and I just this verry moment read about the headphone tones. >>>>>>> You can set tones for recording start and stop. So who knows about >>>>>>> pause and coming out of pause. Also for lo battery and for recording >>>>>>> errors. >>>>>>> Lett's incurage this my friends. Let's motivate them. This is a >>>>>>> sympler start then Olympus, but hay everyone has to start >>>>>>> someware. Right? So more reason to go for the F8N. Man I really wish >>>>>>> now I had the 1K. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ********** >>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest >>>> of the halfwits in this world behind. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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