Now that is interesting and I tried navigating the menu system with 2 different Screen Reading systems, JAWS and Narrator, both yielded the same results announcing alt followed by a letter which - in most cases - is clearly wrong, this is something that needs to be reported and acted upon quickly. I'm sorry I didn't bring this to your attention as its something I should have noticed, my only excuse is that - having used the player for so long - I know many of its shortcuts and just don't bother going into the menu system much. I've pretty much already answered many of your other questions already.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Sunday, 7 October 2018 12:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [all-audio] Differences between Winamp and VLC? Well why then would the keys I mentioned be shown in the playback dropdown menu? Very strange. Also, with the keys you mentioned, which I worked out anyway, how does one stop a currently playing song then start it again from the beginning? Pressing p starts the previous track playing while n starts the next track. Also, is there a way when pressing n of stopping at the end of a playlist rather than recycling back to the beginning? And is there a way of moving from track to track without them actually playing? These are all things I can and need to do in Winamp. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, 7 October 2018 9:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [all-audio] Differences between Winamp and VLC? That’s because you’re issuing the wrong keystrokes. S stops. P or spacebar plays or pause. N is next track. P is previous track. R is Random on/off > On 7 Oct 2018, at 8:40 am, Barry Chapman <[email protected]> wrote: > > With all this talk about VLC, I decided to give it a try, but I can't get > most of the keyboard shortcuts shown in the menus to work. For example, alt+p > doesn't play, alt+s doesn't stop, alt+j doesn't jump forward and alt+k > doesn't jump backward. > > I worked out that p by itself plays and s by itself stops, but if I stop a > track and want to start it again, I need to press n for next followed by p, > otherwise it will play the previous track. > > I know I am a novice user, so it probably isn't fair to judge a program on > first impressions, but I don't find VLC to be very intuitive. I acknowledge > that Winamp is not perfect, but I will stick with it for now. > > Regards, > Barry Chapman > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JM > Casey > Sent: Sunday, 7 October 2018 1:13 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Differences between Winamp and VLC? > > I definitely think it'd be advantageous for them to receive some input for > screen-reader users. The software is quite friendly but there is a little > room for improvement, especially in the area of setting advanced preferences. > If you go there you'll see there's quite a lot "under the hood" of VlC! > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: October 5, 2018 9:30 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Differences between Winamp and VLC? > > Well there is hope, VLC will keep getting better so there’s your hope, the > more people who use the software then the more feedback the developers get. > > >> On 6 Oct 2018, at 11:26 am, Tom Kaufman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Yes...and that is what I am sorry about (that Winamp is not actively >> being >> developed) guess one can always hope--smile! >> Tom Kaufman >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 9:13 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC? >> >> Point taken and that's fair enough. >> By the way there's another difference between VLC and Winamp, one is >> being actively developed and the other hasn't been for quite some time >> <smile>. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Byron >> Stephens >> Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2018 10:33 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC? >> >> I don't even use any equalizers at least not software, but a twenty >> band hardware unit I would and will. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 5:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC? >> >> >>> For what its worth from me and thanks for starting this discussion. >>> Its been a very long while since I used Winamp, why did I stop using it? >>> Because Winamp kept crashing when I tried to play video files >>> recorded in standard TS format from my video TV tuners that I use >>> still ttill this day though different models obviously. >>> So then began my search for a new player that was easy to use and >>> did what I believe a player needs to do, play the track when I press >>> play, move to the next track or skip through a track when I press or >>> hold the forward button etc. >>> VLC did these things and many more besides. >>> I grant you, VLC is not the friendliest App to get around but one >>> can get around much of it using the JAWS cursor or whatever your >>> thing is called on your Screen Reader. >>> If I had my way equalisers in players wouldn't be present. >>> I know I sound harsh but the amount of times I've seen equalisers >>> abused to the point that people manage to stuff their speaker >>> systems up causes me to perhaps take this view. >>> A good sounding pair of speakers which don't cost all that much >>> these days shouldn't require any additional medaling in the form of >>> an >> equaliser. >>> I went to someone's house the other day, this chap had what I would >>> call a perfectly serviceable pair of Altec Lansing computer >>> speakers, well at least I would have termed this speaker system in >>> that way when it was bought but after this chap had applied God only >>> knows how many equalisers in the audio chain? Well this respectable >>> speaker system had been turned to the sound of mud literally, sure! >>> Enough bottom but for what, to demolish the house and perhaps Next doors >>> dwelling too? >>> It certainly didn't sound good. >>> And the top, well it was there but incredibly harsh to the point >>> that my ears felt sore just trying to listen to the thing. >>> Where was the Mid-range? Lost somewhere in the cocofany of noise. >>> Anyway back to the point of VLC and I'm very pleased to say that the >>> developers are slowly but surely making accessibility fixes as >>> updates roll out and I reckon they're doing a fair job since VLC is >>> an open source package. >>> I use VLC on other devices such as my Apple Mac machines, iPhone and >>> iPads and Android with pleasing results. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JM >>> Casey >>> Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2018 8:05 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC? >>> >>> The VlC equalizer is certainly a lot less convenient to set and save >>> settings than the Winamp one using a screen-reader. One can easily >>> adopt any of the presets, but saving your own settings requires >>> messing with the not-too-accessible filters within the preferences >>> dialog box. Actually the whole design is weird and I wish that Video >>> Lan gave the ability to easily save and load multiple equalizer >>> settings in VLC. >>> >>> Just curious, but why not have both programmes? I watch a lot of >>> movies, especially with my sighted partner, and VLC is without doubt >>> an awesome video player and far more versatile and just better at >>> this than winamp ever was. However, I still use Winamp for my audio >>> needs and it works exceedingly well for this purpose even in Windows 10. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian >>> Olesen >>> Sent: October 5, 2018 5:50 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC? >>> >>> Hi all you nice audiofiles, >>> >>> Well I use VLC myself, but I have an old fascion student, who >>> prefers Winamp. >>> >>> I want to persuade him to do the switch. >>> >>> But how is it with information about timing lenghth of files in >>> minutes and seconds and such. Can we easily get to that info also in >>> VLC? >>> >>> Are there other fields where VLC lacks information compared to Winamp? >>> >>> Is it actually the other way around? >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1313): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1313 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/26845153/21656 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
