Good morning everyone:

I just wanted to point out that Steve is right in one way, and wrong in another

What I mean by that is I have used versions of pine starting at version 3.89, 
all the way up to 3.96, and then when Alpine came out, I started using versions 
one all the way up until 2.26

Not only that, but when I was a staff member of the Tallahassee Fina in 
Tallahassee, Florida, I had answered a question from a user. The person wanted 
to know how to use pine

I had written a response to this, and the administrator of the system was so 
impressed with the way that I handled it that I was placed on the questions 
answers team. I believe I still have those particular documents in one of my 
old backups from 1994, and then it was updated all the way up until 2007.

To the issue hand. Says that Gmail is notoriously difficult to set up using 
Alpine. I don’t doubt that, but just from my experience just because you own 
your own domain for 15 or $30, that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s easier 
to set up. It would be for Gmail, even though you’re right in that point.

What I mean by that I own five domains of my own. GODADDY recently gave all of 
their email services management to Microsoft. At that point you have to pay at 
least $38 every year to maintain your email not only that, but I had to Ask 
Eduardo for assistance, because I had a hell of a time trying to set up 
everything, and I must’ve communicated with him at least 35 times during this 
entire situation, but he helped me get through it. His thoughtful and very 
informative posts as well a patience are a testament to how awesome he is. He 
just said let’s start at the beginning, so I started emailing him off list, and 
each time we communicated I would let him know what was going on. Then he would 
respond back to me, and we kept doing this until, I  got 0Auth working with my 
domain account. I also asked Eduardo about my Gmail accounts. Eduardo help me 
set that up to help me set up my domains. I can log into all of my accounts. I 
want access to including all of the IMA account folders, and I have all of my 
authentication token saved.

Again, I think Eduardo for his patience and his expertise in this situation. I 
was so happy after I got done with this that I was totally psyched. Alpine as 
well as the program Pine are very powerful applications. You just have to know 
how to open up the power so that you can wire it in right. Eduardo also help me 
set up so that I can respond as either of the user or my personal account.

So as I stated, it is not necessarily easier to set up domain account email if 
you have to go through authentication token so many times that your head wants 
to spin backwards. 

Most hosts I know of  use IMAP as one of the primary ways to access email. I 
don’t know if pop three is still as popular as it used to be, but I am at is so 
awesome because it does not require you to bring the mail down from your server 
onto your primary machine. It allows it to stay there and you go in and take 
care of it from there. 

I want to be safe or safer: however, sometimes when they try to make things 
better, they always seem to make things worse, which means people like Eduardo 
who develop Alpine have to be about seven steps ahead of somebody else who is 
trying to make changes to the Mail host while he is trying to update Alpine to 
the newest additions. 226 and he was able to tell me that some of the program 
of Alpine 2.24 was not operating properly because there was a piece of it that 
was causing issues, and he told me to update to the newest version, I’m back in 
business. 

Have a great day!

Brian




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> On May 23, 2024, at 6:21 AM, Steve Litt via Alpine-info 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Marc Lytle via Alpine-info said on Sat, 18 May 2024 16:59:04 -0700
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I have set up Alpine with Gmail and I'm able to successfully connect
>> to the Gmail account and access/send email. The issue is that this
>> just stops working after a couple of days.
> 
> Why gmail? It's notoriously difficult to deal with. Why not just buy a
> domain for $15/year and use the mailing address(s) from that domain?
> 
> SteveT
> 
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