Andrew:

Thank you for that information. I didn’t realize that you could use a dash and 
then the HUP after the dash. I know that signal nine is only advisable when you 
don’t have a choice. I’ve had a few times when you have to use a signal line 
because something locks up and you have to end it

I remember when I was working with Eduardo when he was helping me with Alpine. 
When we were setting up all of these tokens, there were times when I had to 
signal my Alpine because I could not exit and that is because whatever master 
password or authentication strategy was just locking the entire system up. 

I guess the reason why I was using signal nine all the time was because when I 
was working as an online volunteer, someone would always say that they have to 
signal nine in a process. I’m glad that you don’t have to do a signal nine 
every single time and now I understand what the HUP means after the dash: it 
means hang up, but I didn’t realize that process hangs up like you would hang 
up a telephone he he he he he 

Have a great weekend, and I believe this one is a long one!

Brian



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> On May 23, 2024, at 6:36 PM, Andrew C Aitchison <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 23 May 2024, Brian S. Baker [VIA BBUS] via Alpine-info wrote:
> 
>> The way you take care of that is you give it a signal 9 kill and
>> this will release the locks process because one of them will be
>> terminated.
> 
> Please only use kill -9 as a last resort.
> 
> If alpine is still running, kill -HUP will be sufficient and will
> allow it to syncronize all open folders and remove locks safely.
> 
> kill -9 can leave files in unknown, unsafe states and destroy data.
> This is as bad as what the locks are trying to avoid.
> 
> --
> Andrew C. Aitchison                      Kendal, UK
>                   [email protected]
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