I have grown this clematis in the lower Hudson Valley, New York State. I bought mine from LaPorte Ave. Nursery some years ago and followed his cultural notes, which went something like this: "It likes hot, rocky slopes".That's where I put it. While it doesn't bloom profusely it survives and delights. Lola Horwitz, who mostly gardens in Brooklyn, NY (no hot, rocky slopes here)
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Re: Dalea purpurea (CLIFF BOOKER) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 08:35:48 -0700 > From: Cindy Reed <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] experiences growing Great Plains plants? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thank you, Jim. It would be very interesting to run several short > description of experiences growing C. hirsutissima. I haven't tried it. > But I do have Scarlet Globe Mallow, yes that is another. And would > be a good one to appear, as it is generally well recognized by visitors > and residents in the Plains, though few have tried to keep it in their > garden. > What about Phlox andicola, P. hoodii, or P. alyssifolia? Astragalus > ceramicus? or others that any of you may be growing. > Cindy Reed > Hot Springs, SD zone 4 > > On 2/4/2011 10:06 PM, Jim Hatchett wrote: > > > > Cindy, > > > > I would comment that this clematis is not uncommon in the short grass > > prairie surrounding the Black Hills. It is very reliable bloomer hear > > and extremely long lived(at least in my area). Another common plant > > that is garden worthy found in the same area is the Scarlet Globe Mallow. > > > > Jim Hatchett > > > > Eagle, Idaho, Zone5 > > > > *From:*[email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Cindy Reed > > *Sent:* Friday, February 04, 2011 9:45 PM > > *To:* Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society; postings copyright > > by authors. > > *Subject:* Re: [Alpine-l] experiences growing Great Plains plants? > > > > /Clematis hirsutissima/ would qualify. It is not frequent in the > > Plains, but has been documented here in some places. We use the Flora > > of the Great Plains as our reference, at least until Flora of North > > America is completed. I do know where a native occurrence of an > > infrequent Clematis is to be found, I will check whether it keys out > > as /hirsutissima/, and can collect seeds sometime. > > It would be very interesting for people to read about your > > experiences with it. > > The Flora of the Great Plains actually includes plants not native to > > the Plains, as the authors had to include entire states, rather than > > using the actual boundaries of the Plains, which do not include all of > > any state. Sometimes we check the index which shows county occurences > > more carefully, so as to focus on plants of the Plains proper, rather > > than add to the muddy comprehension of the difference between the > > Plains and the Prairies to our east. > > See the map on www.gpnps.org/region <http://www.gpnps.org/region> > > for a better idea of our boundaries. > > Thanks for your willingness to write a little bit. > > Cindy Reed > > > > On 2/4/2011 7:36 PM, Ilse Burch wrote: > > > > Does Clematis hirsutissima qualify? If so, then I could write a little > > about it. It is a lovely plant, and apparently not all that easy for > > most people. > > > > It might help if you were to list some of the plants you think of as > > Great Plains plants. > > > > Ilse Burch > > > > Sammamish, WA > > zone 7+ > > currently 50 and raining > > > > On 2/4/2011 5:55 PM, Cindy Reed wrote: > > > > Since winter is still with us for a good while longer, I am hoping > that > > > > some of you might be willing to write a few lines on your experience > > > > growing any plants of the Great Plains, that I may put into the > > > > newsletter of the Great Plains Native Plant Society. Our seed > collectors > > > > need inspiration as to what you may be looking for. And others need > > > > inspiration and guidance choosing and growing these species. > > > > Thanks. > > > > from under my snowdrift > > > > Cindy Reed > > > > Hot Springs, SD > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Alpine-l mailing list > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Alpine-l mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Alpine-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/alpine-l/attachments/20110206/97eb8731/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:04:47 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Astragalus lutosus > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Does anyone know a source for plants of Astragalus lutosus? This is one > I have difficulty with this one from seed in my climate but when > I put in a plant at the appropriate time it does well enough to flower. It > lasted for 5 years before succumbing to the terrible winter thaw/ wet spring > of 2010. > Anne Spiegel Mid-Hudson Valley > New York zone 4b/5a no one really knows anymore but many zone 5 plants > are consisterntly winter-killed due to strong winds + cold > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pacific Rim <[email protected]> > To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society;postings copyright by > authors. <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:08 am > Subject: [Alpine-l] Patagonia -- including r******* v****** > > > Here's a good read about plant-hunting in Northern Patagonia: > ttp:// > www.eecrg.uib.no/projects/AGS_BotanyExp/NorthernPatagonia/NorthernPatagonia.htm > Some of you may have seen a print version of the story earlier in the > Alpine > arden Society journal. In that case, I hope you are like me. I find that my > nterests evolve, and my memory fails, enough that I can profitably reread > y old journals every few years. > Paige > _______________________________________________ > lpine-l mailing list > [email protected] > ttp://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/alpine-l/attachments/20110206/f1490ce9/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:16:11 -0700 > From: "Jim Hatchett" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] experiences growing Great Plains plants? > To: "'Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society; postings copyright > by authors.'" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <00bd01cbc65c$3a010f70$ae032e50$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > ? > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] > On Behalf Of Cindy Reed > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 8:36 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] experiences growing Great Plains plants? > > > > Thank you, Jim. It would be very interesting to run several short > description of experiences growing C. hirsutissima. I haven't tried it. > But I do have Scarlet Globe Mallow, yes that is another. And would be a > good one to appear, as it is generally well recognized by visitors and > residents in the Plains, though few have tried to keep it in their garden. > What about Phlox andicola, P. hoodii, or P. alyssifolia? Astragalus > ceramicus? or others that any of you may be growing. > Cindy Reed > Hot Springs, SD zone 4? > > I suppose the elephant it the room when it comes to plants of the great > plains would be the grasses, which make up the bulk of the biomass and > really define the ecosystem. I have about ? acre in mixed short grass > prairie grasses. The dominant species are Buffalo grass and Blue Grama. I > have also mixed in Little Bluestem, Side Oates Grama, Three Awn, Needle > Grass (Stipa) and Dropseed and a few others whose common names I have > forgotten. If you mix in a little Mexican Hat, Pallid Coneflower(Echinacea > augustifolia) and perhaps Blanket flower and some Legumes like Purple > Prairie Clover you start to get the flavor of the short grass prairie. You > might notice I have omitted any cactus from the mix, its on purpose. > > Jim Hatchett > > Eagle, Idaho, Zone 5 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/alpine-l/attachments/20110206/1517d421/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 23:34:45 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] experiences growing Great Plains plants? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Which legume would "Purple Prairie Clover" be? Trifolium??? > Anne Spiegel > New York zone 4b/5a > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Hatchett <[email protected]> > To: 'Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society;postings copyright by > authors.' <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:16 pm > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] experiences growing Great Plains plants? > > > > > ? > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Cindy Reed > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 8:36 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] experiences growing Great Plains plants? > > > Thank you, Jim. It would be very interesting to run several short > description of experiences growing C. hirsutissima. I haven't tried it. > But I do have Scarlet Globe Mallow, yes that is another. And would be a > good one to appear, as it is generally well recognized by visitors and > residents in the Plains, though few have tried to keep it in their garden. > What about Phlox andicola, P. hoodii, or P. alyssifolia? Astragalus > ceramicus? or others that any of you may be growing. > Cindy Reed > Hot Springs, SD zone 4? > I suppose the elephant it the room when it comes to plants of the great > plains would be the grasses, which make up the bulk of the biomass and > really define the ecosystem. I have about ? acre in mixed short grass > prairie grasses. The dominant species are Buffalo grass and Blue Grama. I > have also mixed in Little Bluestem, Side Oates Grama, Three Awn, Needle > Grass (Stipa) and Dropseed and a few others whose common names I have > forgotten. If you mix in a little Mexican Hat, Pallid Coneflower(Echinacea > augustifolia) and perhaps Blanket flower and some Legumes like Purple > Prairie Clover you start to get the flavor of the short grass prairie. You > might notice I have omitted any cactus from the mix, its on purpose. > Jim Hatchett > Eagle, Idaho, Zone 5 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lpine-l mailing list > [email protected] > ttp://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/alpine-l/attachments/20110206/4c7448fb/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:30:04 -0700 > From: "Jim Hatchett" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] experiences growing Great Plains plants? > To: "'Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society; postings copyright > by authors.'" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <00ce01cbc688$139a91e0$3acfb5a0$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have to apologize for my slothfulness in not using the proper binomial > nomenclature. I can usually remember the common names of ?well.. common > plants. The proper name of the plant I was referring to is Dalea > purpureaei. I find it to be very common in the shortgrass prairie near > Spearfish, Wyoming just before entering the Black Hills area, it is a common > associate of Bouteloua gracilis (Blue Gramma grass). > > Jim Hatchett > > Eagle, Idaho Zone 5 > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 9:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] experiences growing Great Plains plants? > > > > Which legume would "Purple Prairie Clover" be? Trifolium???. > > Anne Spiegel > New York zone 4b/5a > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Hatchett <[email protected]> > To: 'Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society;postings copyright by > authors.' <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:16 pm > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] experiences growing Great Plains plants? > > > > ? > > From: <mailto:[email protected]> > [email protected] [ <mailto:[email protected]?> > mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cindy Reed > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 8:36 AM > To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] experiences growing Great Plains plants? > > > > Thank you, Jim. It would be very interesting to run several short > description of experiences growing C. hirsutissima. I haven't tried it. > But I do have Scarlet Globe Mallow, yes that is another. And would be a > good one to appear, as it is generally well recognized by visitors and > residents in the Plains, though few have tried to keep it in their garden. > What about Phlox andicola, P. hoodii, or P. alyssifolia? Astragalus > ceramicus? or others that any of you may be growing. > Cindy Reed > Hot Springs, SD zone 4? > > I suppose the elephant it the room when it comes to plants of the great > plains would be the grasses, which make up the bulk of the biomass and > really define the ecosystem. I have about ? acre in mixed short grass > prairie grasses. The dominant species are Buffalo grass and Blue Grama. I > have also mixed in Little Bluestem, Side Oates Grama, Three Awn, Needle > Grass (Stipa) and Dropseed and a few others whose common names I have > forgotten. If you mix in a little Mexican Hat, Pallid Coneflower(Echinacea > augustifolia) and perhaps Blanket flower and some Legumes like Purple > Prairie Clover you start to get the flavor of the short grass prairie. You > might notice I have omitted any cactus from the mix, its on purpose. > > Jim Hatchett > > Eagle, Idaho, Zone 5 > > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-l mailing list > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] > <http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l> > http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/alpine-l/attachments/20110206/c1eabe48/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 06:12:06 +0000 > From: CLIFF BOOKER <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Dalea purpurea > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > A fine image of Dalea purpurea can be found at the following link:- > > > http://www.fireflyforest.com/flowers/945/dalea-purpurea-purple-prairie-clover/ > > Cliff Booker > Whitworth, Rochdale, Lancashire. 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