Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:19:53 -0400,
Manuel Jander wrote:

Hello,

I have the following dilema. The Aureal Vortex DMA engine supports
upto 4 hardware pages, but they have to be frame aligned. The current
driver also needs them to be of the same size. To archive this, i added
the following code in the pcm "open" function.

/* Force equal size periods */
if ((err = snd_pcm_hw_constraint_integer(runtime,
SNDRV_PCM_HW_PARAM_PERIODS)) < 0)
return err;
/* Force DMA 32 bit alignment */
if ((err = snd_pcm_hw_constraint_step(runtime, 0,
SNDRV_PCM_HW_PARAM_PERIOD_BYTES, 4)) < 0)
return err;

Now PCM works correctly, but some apps, like aplay fail to play some
formats, because they get their period size requirementes rejected, and
they just give up instead of trying other period sizes. Since aplay uses
a time based criteria for the period sizes instead of "sane" values, the
period sizes are very odd.


yes, this is a known issue.
recently i've talked with Jaroslav about this theme, and we agreed
that it's a design flaw of the current configurator system.


The question is, should i blame aplay or try to implement some
workaround in the Aureal driver ??


i fixed aplay recently to allocate the period size first.
this works better than the former way (buffer -> period).
please try the cvs version.

about the influence of this bug: AFAIK, very rare applications use the time-based period/buffer size,
so this is not critical. strangely enough, aplay is an exception :)


(btw, aplay has also options to specify the buffer/period sizes in
frames, but the time-based values are used as default.)


Takashi



I help develop an application called xine.
We wish to use the function: -
dir=0;
err = snd_pcm_hw_params_set_buffer_time_near(this->audio_fd, params, &buffer_time, &dir);


We then try to set the period size to buffer_size / 8.

I have already found out that not all audio devices like an interger amount of periods, so this can fail in some circumstances.

I have two problems: -
1) Once one sets the buffer size, and then tries to set the period size near, and fails. One would think that one could then go back a try a different buffer size, but I have found this does not work.
2) The different combinations of setting period_size/time and buffer_size/time and the dependence between them seems to be very difficult to achieve for all sound cards.


I want to try and aim at 8 periods per buffer.
Common sense would tell me that one should be able to set the buffer size first, and then try to set the period size to buffer_size/8. But I should be able to use the set_period_size_near call so that it selects the next closest value, so that I achieve a result as close as possible to what I want. This seems to fail with the current setup on some sound cards, but works with other sound cards.


Can I assume that this is a bug in alsa, or some deeper issue.

Cheers
James



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