Thanks for the ideas!  The wire in the joystick
port was awesome.  Answers inline...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:aezr4@;studcom.urz.uni-halle.de] On Behalf Of Clemens Ladisch
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:49 AM
> To: Thomas Vaughan
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] External MIDI with SB Live! Value
> 
> 
> Thomas Vaughan wrote:
> >  1) Is there a good debugging guide?  I'm guessing
> >     that ALSA experts have a checklist, like
> >      - check kernel config
> >      - check alsa build config
> >      - check /etc/modules.conf
> >      - check lsmod
> >      - etc.
> 
> Try
> http://www.google.com/search?q=alsa+troubleshooting
> 

One (possible) problem: I was using alsa 0.9rc3, which
seems a bit ambitious.  I've switched back to 0.5.12a,
but I haven't noticed a big change in behavior.

>From what I can tell (and there are many people out
there with SB Live! cards) I've got everything set up
correctly.  Going through the process a dozen times has
made things more obvious as well :)

> >  3) What do the "alias sound-service-x-y" lines
> >     in /etc/modules.conf do?  x is the card number,
> >     but what is y?  Is y related to the numbers in
> >     /proc/asound/devices?
> 
> sound-service-x-y is for autoloading OSS device drivers. If 
> you do "ls -l"
> in /dev you'll see OSS devices with major number 14 and minor number
> x*32+y.

Cool.

> I think the problem is your cable. Many cheap gameport-MIDI 
> converters do
> not work, especially with Soundblaster cards.
> 
> Please try connecting pins 12 (MIDI TxD) and 15 (MIDI RxD) of 
> the gameport
> with a wire. Then all data sent to the MIDI port will be 
> echoed back (if
> the port works).
> 
>   8             1
> -------------------
> \ o o o o o o o o /
>  \ o o o o o o o /
>   ---------------
>   15           9
> 
> 
> HTH
> Clemens

Cable?  That's silly...

OHMYGOD.  Yup, whatever I write out to
/proc/asound/dev/midiC0D0 is echoed back when I
have pins 12 and 15 connected.  If I remove the
wire, I see nothing echoed back.

[ more screaming deleted ]

So I'm guessing that, in fact, I have a bad
cable.  It explains why various kernel and driver
recompiles over the past two weeks made no
difference.

[ more screaming deleted ]

I will get a better cable tomorrow.  And write a
short letter to my old cable's manufacturer.

Thanks for the help!  I'm excited to be moving
forward on my project again.

    -Thomas



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