I'm a Sinatra fan boi myself ;)

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Paul McCallick <[email protected]> wrote:

> Rails really shifted my mindset on the "right" way to do things.  After you
> get over your initial reaction to how different it is, you start realizing
> how productive it can be.  You can learn quite a bit from it.
>
> Grails is also an eye opener, and my opinion better than rails, which is
> too database centric.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:17 AM, David Foley <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Ignore my long-winded response... what he said.
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Justin Bozonier wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to add that I actually have more tests that hit the db because it
>> is so easy and due to being able to have it be an in memory database.
>>
>> also while you don't do DI and IoC containers like you do in C#, the
>> concept is still there.
>>
>> We should go over how I've been working on PocketLoot one day at work,
>> it's pretty different from the way you're used to working.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:44 AM, Bobby Johnson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> to be fair the database in question is a built for the test run sqlite db
>> by default seeded with known data. DI, IoC are less useful in a language
>> where everything is so easy to redefine.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Ryan Riley <<[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, all true.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Erick Thompson <<[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Rob Conery's post on WebMatrix had a comment by Rob in response to a
>>> > by Ian Cooper [1]. The comment exchange is well worth the read
>>> > ( <http://alt.net/>alt.net throwdown!) but what caught my eye the
>>> statement that
>>> > Ruby/Rails/Sinatra doesn't use (or really have) DI, IoC or often have
>>> > tests that don't hit the database. Not having done much with
>>> > Ruby/Rails/Sinatra aside from a few small projects to learn the
>>> > langauge/basic framework and knowing that at least a few people here
>>> > do use and like these - is this true???
>>> >
>>> > Erick
>>> >
>>> > [1]
>>> >
>>> <http://blog.wekeroad.com/microsoft/someone-hit-their-head#comment-129723733>
>>> http://blog.wekeroad.com/microsoft/someone-hit-their-head#comment-129723733
>>> >
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>> - Occam’s Razor
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