(discussion moved from the TRA list & some private emails)

 

A bit of background - I'm an EE and work in oilfield automation and safety
engineering, I have some (dated) background in microcontrollers. I'm also a
CAR RSO. I used Adrian's magnetic switches last year on my N1800 L3 project.
They work well, though we've found that they tend to be a bit sensitive to
stray magnetic fields - got to be careful where the cell phone, radio,
pocket with magnet, etc. are in relation the sensor.

 

I understand the concern about potentially launching a rocket with the
recovery system turned off, but I think the case of a rocket that won't fly
but has armed ejection circuits is also worth consideration. In Canada we
require a sterile ballistic recovery zone so odds of anybody getting hurt by
a ballistic recovery are low, but we often have incidents where a rocket
fails to fly and has to be lowered off the launcher - I consider the danger
of accidental deployment during this process a much higher risk since people
are close by. Obviously if the rocket has accessible switches there should
be no problem, but there is the potential for this to be an issue.
Personally I love the idea of remote arming and disarming, beats climbing a
rickety ladder and eliminates access hatches / holes.

 

I think that allowing bi-directional comms prior to launch detection would
be a valid approach IF a launch detect routine could interrupt a radio
subroutine. It could also automatically force the TeleMetrum into flight
mode, and the listen mode could be disabled.

 

My question is how well does the processor multi-task? How much room is
there for more code, and how fast does it all run? Does the launch detection
subroutine run on a timed interrupt basis? The radio routines take a long
time to execute due to the need to transmit and receive data at a much lower
data rate, but most of the CPU time would be spend in wait cycles as the
data is buffered through. Ideally they are not exclusive program calls that
block other routines from running, but maybe I'm assuming too much from this
particular processor? 

 

Regards,

Eric

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Bdale Garbee [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 22:45

To: Eric Weder

Subject: Re: FW: [CRA] CRA Twitter Update

 

On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:33:23 -0700, "Eric Weder" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Once the rocket is set up and TeleMetrum is armed in launch mode, what 

> happens if you have to take the rocket down? Easy case is that it has 

> an external power switch, but what if it is not accessible and you 

> have to leave the altimeter armed while lowering the rocket?

 

Once a TeleMetrum is in launch-detect mode, there is no way to take it back
out over the radio.  There are two reasons for this.  One is that if we
happened to detect launch while the radio is in receive mode, we'd lose the
ability to collect telemetry briefly until the radio got turned around to
transmit.  The second is that several early customers were adamant that
there be no way to accidentally take a unit out of flight mode over the
radio once igniters are installed in a rocket on the rail. 

 

So, we strongly recommend having an externally-accessible power switch.

Taking a rocket down from vertical with the electronics still armed is not a
good idea.  Adrian's magnetic power switches from Featherweight Altimeters
can be used with TeleMetrum boards, I'm happy to provide wiring details if
mechanical switches bother you and you want to go that route instead.

 

Bdale

 

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