On Tuesday 02 July 2002 19:43, Robert Kearey wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> The majority opinion of those on this list is that any rpm's for >> amanda probably should be subjected to an intentional rm -f, >> they rarely, very rarely, will fit the individual users >> individual system, leaving out many vital steps such as adding a >> user "amanda" and makeing her a member of group "disk" for >> instance. > >Incorrect. Where did you get that idea? > > From the amanda specfile for Red Hat 7.3: > >useradd -M -n -g disk -o -r -d /var/lib/amanda -s /bin/bash \ > -c "Amanda user" -u 33 amanda >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > >A little research does wonders, you'll find. > Maybe. OTOH, I don't know enough bash to be able to decode just exactly what that above command line actually does. And many, many new bees are going to be in that exact same situation.
>> Generally speaking, making an rpm installation work is going to >> be 10x more difficult than making a home built install work. >> There isn't enough docs to describe the rpm's default >> configuration so you can either make your system match the one >> the rpm was built on, or give up in a morass of error messages. > >I'd dispute that most strongly. It's all there in the spec file, > if you'd care to look. > >Package management exists for a reason. I've noticed a lot of > frankly uninformed criticism of packaged amanda installs, and > it's beyond time for that to end. Maybe it is, but for that to happen, there have to be people on this list knowledgeable about how the rpm works, who can do the hand-holding required that we, the tar builders often don't know how to. You are one of the few who could volunteer to fill those shoes, and we all know this list could use such knowledge constructively. Feel free to turn green (like kermit the frog) and jump right in! If you do, when rpm questions come up, we can shut up. The idea is to render the help that gets them going, not to argue about packaging systems from a near biblical perspective. This belittles the group in general. Thats not what we're here for. I originally joined this group to figure out how to make amanda work. I have, and have shared my methods thereby saving the authors, who don't number all that many, from some of the grunt detail called support. We can certainly use the help. -- Cheers, Gene AMD K6-III@500mhz 320M Athlon1600XP@1400mhz 512M 99.04% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly
